Why the WHO took two years to say Covid is airborne

Post by nradov » Thu, Apr 07, 2022, 12:27 PM UTC

makeitdouble wrote: post #232

dgellow wrote: post #195

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Which governments specifically? Also, you say that they failed to avoid panic but where have you seen some? From what I’ve seen some governments said a few incorrect or misleading things at a time where we had a lot of uncertainty and contradictory information. And then corrected once information became better. Overall western governments (I’m mostly familiar with Western Europe and the US) have been quite good at co…

Speaking for France, we had a lot of flat out lies throughout the pandemic. The most obvious one was on masks and their lack of protection, hammered week after week by the gov spokesperson, until there was enough masks to be distributed. Then masks started to be pushed by the gov, people were encouraged to make their own, and we all know the story from there. There was no lack of information or evidence, and they pai…

Post by swores » Thu, Apr 07, 2022, 12:28 PM UTC

foxhill wrote: post #219

reuben_scratton wrote: post #198

"Taking full precautions against airborne transmission would require major changes at hospitals" Major changes such as, er, occasionally opening a window to let some fresh air in? That's a basic, obvious precaution that's been known since the dawn of time that wasn't done at all in the UK hospital ward where my mother caught and then died from Covid late last year. I know because I was there. The cluelessness re. vir…

i’m not sure operating theatres, ICUs, NICUs, private examination rooms, MRI facilities, etc. have much in way of windows. i also don’t think i’d appreciate a gentle breeze rolling over my internal organs whilst my appendix is being removed :) i’m sorry for your loss. there’s no doubt that governmental denial and reckless mismanagement - especially prevalent in the early days of the pandemic - is directly responsible…

Post by nradov » Thu, Apr 07, 2022, 12:33 PM UTC

traceroute66 wrote: post #199

lobochrome wrote: post #82

It is rather interesting to consider that many countries in Asia (China / Japan / Taiwan / Vietnam / Malaysia that I am aware of) happily ignored the WHO on masks and, with regards to Japan, actively promoted the airborne nature of COVID-19 early on. I remember seeing specials on NHK visualising the spread from a sneezing person in a room in March 2020. There were also a lot of helpful PSAs like the 3C model [0] and…

> Japan, actively promoted the airborne nature of COVID-19 early on Yes, but Japan is a leader in airborne disease prevention. I mean, if you visit Japan during a "normal" winter season you will observe two things: 1) Widespread mask-wearing in public spaces 2) Japanese not turning up to work to cough and splutter all over their colleagues Both the above never happened in the West. It was hard enough to get your aver…

Post by nradov » Thu, Apr 07, 2022, 12:41 PM UTC

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #193

throwntoday wrote: post #173

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You seem confused. Popular narrative is not driven by scientist, it's driven by saber rattling morons who will crucify anyone that speaks against them. For example, what the scientific community understood about efficacy of masks, and how utterly useless cloth masks are, disappeared overnight with covid. Perhaps your memory is failing you but I can recall people being chastised for even suggesting they might be usele…

Cloth masks are not as good as properly fitted KN95/99 masks, but they are not utterly useless. There's a ton of evidence supporting this, and it doesn't help your argument to deny it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7510705/

Post by throwawaylinux » Thu, Apr 07, 2022, 12:47 PM UTC

statop wrote: post #215

throwawaylinux wrote: post #186

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"But clothes" isn't an argument.

Very compelling. Go on then, tell us why you feel a mask is an infringement on your bodily autonomy but pants shirt shoes aren’t.