Reading some of the stuff people used to eat, I have a really hard time understanding how obesity is worse today than back then.
Logically then, the stuff they ate wasn't the cause of obesity. Modern nutrition must have got it wrong.
A Square Meal – Foods of the ‘20s and ‘30s
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#112I can't stand "normal" milk from the US... the stuff you buy in the plastic cartons. It taste horrid. Milk from Germany? I love it. Milk from Darigold in the paper cartons? I love it. Milk from Darigold in the plastic? Tastes like garbage. Organic milk in a paper carton? Some is good, some taste like garbage. I didn't realize how different milk tastes until I spent some time in Germany. Prior to that I just thought I…
The secret to the Darigold plastic/paper dichotomy may be in the expiration dates. At least for the 1% product, the half-gallon cardboard cartons tend to expire at least one month, sometimes two, later than the plastic jugs sitting next to them. Not hard to imagine how milk that's been sitting around in a plastic jug for an extra month or two will taste worse.
Milk with a multi-month shelf live can't be fresh, I believe. The fresh (mildly processed) milk I know turns bad within about a week, the "extended shelf life" stuff that was introduced a couple of years ago (in Germany) lasts for a few weeks. There is also "H Milch" which tastes very differend and can be stored at room temperature for several months.
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#113I can't stand "normal" milk from the US... the stuff you buy in the plastic cartons. It taste horrid. Milk from Germany? I love it. Milk from Darigold in the paper cartons? I love it. Milk from Darigold in the plastic? Tastes like garbage. Organic milk in a paper carton? Some is good, some taste like garbage. I didn't realize how different milk tastes until I spent some time in Germany. Prior to that I just thought I…
Even milk from the same dairy tastes radically different in plastic than paper. I always hated plastic milk as a kid. Nobody else seemed to notice the difference though. I sometimes wonder if there’s only a small subset of the population that can notice it.
It’s entirely possible, most artificial sweeteners have a chemical taste to me and if I consume them it unsettles my stomach for a couple hours. My mother is the only other person I’ve encountered with the same condition. My father and brothers can’t tell the difference. I can ingest real sugar and corn syrup without issue, but they taste very different to me. I discovered sodas made with real sugar about ten years ago - wow - those mexican cokes are amazing, but costs twice as much.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I was going to comment the same thing. There should be little difference between the taste from LDPE lining in paper cartons vs. HDPE plastic containers.
Plastic jugs let in lots of light, while paper cartons are opaque, which could have an effect. FWIW, I do have a preference, I think milk is best drunk straight from a paper carton (in single servings, milk from the plastic "milk chugs" has always tasted worse to me).
True, but stores generally don't get any natural light in their fridge sections.
Over here (NL), most milk is only on shelves for a day, they cart in new batches daily. We err, go through a lot of milk.
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#115> This is sort of like how squid ice cream seems normal in Japan. I regret to inform you that squid ice cream is actually pretty darn weird even in Japan. Red bean (azuki), sweet corn or roasted tea ice cream, on the other hand, would be quite normal.
Never had these ice creams, but Green Tea KitKats from Japan are quite delicious!
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#117I can't stand "normal" milk from the US... the stuff you buy in the plastic cartons. It taste horrid. Milk from Germany? I love it. Milk from Darigold in the paper cartons? I love it. Milk from Darigold in the plastic? Tastes like garbage. Organic milk in a paper carton? Some is good, some taste like garbage. I didn't realize how different milk tastes until I spent some time in Germany. Prior to that I just thought I…
Impact of modern packaging on the taste itself has been proven to be neglible in double blind studies. However, the taste of milk varies wildly based on the animal (food, location, roaming, season etc.) and also of course the process applied to sterilize the milk (pasteurization/UHT, skimming, filtering). Same milk from from same cow will taste very different when raw vs UHT. I am very much a UHT person, but for some weird reason my country (UK) considers UHT second grade so it's not always easy to find them - or they are shunned to "baking" aisles.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Larger portion sizes, more snacking, much less manual labor. Only the wealthy were obese back then.
But it says that soldiers were fed 4000 to 5000 calories. Sounds pretty hard to exercise enough to burn that off.
WWI soldiers marched literally for days straight with 85 pounds of equipment on their backs.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Larger portion sizes, more snacking, much less manual labor. Only the wealthy were obese back then.
But it says that soldiers were fed 4000 to 5000 calories. Sounds pretty hard to exercise enough to burn that off.
According to [1] (which cites [2], page 9), British infantry etc have an average 4,600 calorie intake.
[1] https://militarymuscle.co/blogs/studies/nutrition-for-milita...
[2] https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
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#120Is milk being on every relief menu a sign that people had a derranged love for milk? Or just the strength of the milk lobby?