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The next Google
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Re: The next Google
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> The initial statement sounded exactly like the armchair "experts" one so often encounters. Maybe - but [marginalia_nu]( https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=marginalia_nu ) isn't an armchair expert - they've actually implemented theor own publically available search engine - which is linked in their profile.
I didn't say they are. Only that the initial comment sounded like that. And in the thread above we discussed a bit about their achievements. I really liked it and learned a lot.
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I think I was editing the comment while you were replying. Sorry about that. I was just adding to it though, didn't really rug pull on your response so I think it's fine. > What qualifies? What defines signal, what noise? I agree, that a lot (probably nearly all) pages will receive very, very little traffic/search requests. But are these therefore not relevant? Now this is a proper difficult problem with (probably) f…
> I [...] didn't really rug pull on your response so I think it's fine. No you didn't. All good. And I learned a lot from the extended answer. So I am thankful for the explanation. > Developing heuristics for this is a bit of a hobby horse of mine. It feels tantalizingly almost doable with just a little bit more resources and time than I have. I can totally understand the feeling. There are quite a few things that I'…
I initially did basically a DFS-walk originating at a few websites I liked, with some filtering criteria that deprioritized websites that didn't look too interesting. Now that I have a fairly comprehensive mapping of the space I want to index, I use a few factors like frequent outbound links from highly ranking domains to inform which new sites to index.
> I could probably shoot many more questions, but don't want to be a nuisance.
No worry, I love to talk about this stuff.
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Gave it another try with "ssh scp". Google's first result explains me how to use scp (ssh provides a hint about the context), which was what i would be looking for. Marganilla... not so much it seems
https://search.marginalia.nu/search?query=scp&profile=yolo&j... tho
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https://search.marginalia.nu/search?query=scp&profile=yolo&j... tho
The second hit links to a man page of scp. It is a formal description of the syntax, not what I was looking for... I'd rather have a short intro and a few examples of typical usage instead, am I being pedantic? If i wanted a formal description i would google 'scp cli', 'scp options' or even 'man scp'. Also, on a tangent, to be honest -- I find searching simply for 'scp' not a very clever approach. How did Marginalia…
I think it showed the man page first because that domain is highly ranked.
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The future is trust networks. Where you trust a number of friends, who trust other people, etc. and you can use a matrix of trust to retrieve review scores, etc. Imagine trusting HN, visiting Amazon and getting all the reviews from other HN users ...
"Trust networks" are literally the past, that's literally how humanity has worked ever since its inception
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Imagine a commenter in a walled garden complaining about the walled garden's audience. "Facebook's audience is extremely skewed toward..., but that's not what...." How long before some Facebook reader asks, "Then why are you using it?" If one dislikes systems that allow tinkering then why read and comment on HN. I do not understand.
I'm not sure who said they dislike systems that allow tinkering.
Maybe HN is not the ideal forum for discussions of "the market" (due to lack of interest and/or understanding), but maybe HN is a decent forum for discussing systems that allow tinkering.
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> a simple box where you put a question in and it gives you answers Google is very good at this, but this is exactly what I _don't_ want in the "Next Google". I want a _search engine_ for the web, not an answers engine that tries to know what I want better than I do. Search the web. Give me links to websites. This seems obvious to me, but everyone is trying to be like Google. I'm convinced the death of the web and in…
The death of the web is because most people don't want what you want. They don't mind walled gardens, so long as they are easy to use and have the content and connections that they want to see. The audience of HN is extremely skewed towards preferring systems that allow tinkering but that's not what the market wants.
This is absolutely true; however there are riches in niches.
The % of internet users who want X probably is lower, but I’d gander the absolute number of people who would want something like this is much bigger than it was a decade ago.
This community forgets that because we’re told by investors, the media we read, etc. to go after the biggest markets possible. “Hunt for elephants, not field mice,” they say.
Don’t forget that a niche market on the web can still be massive and small fortunes can be made building products and services for them. You might not even need to have investors on your cap table to bring products to market to sell to those niches if you know what you’re doing, but shhhh… don’t tell them I told you that.
Re: The next Google
#550I just went on a mini vacation to Vegas, and was thinking how nice it would be to just call up someone and ask for some simple advice. I did a bunch of online research before I booked things, but man was it painful. There are so many copy-cat blogs who just throw together a bunch of basic information with no real research done in order to get those clicks/adwords. For example: best hotel pool in vegas. Seems simple e…
I find reddit works remarkably well for this. I've gotten great actionable recommendations within an hour or two for: - good coffeeshops - tacos - Korean grocery stores - places that have traditional style al pastor tacos - finding a specific coffee brand at a local grocery store - finding EDM songs similar to a particular song (dullscythe) - hot chicken - canolis and a bunch more similar things. I would think if you…
Maybe that's what would fix Google. Up&down-votes for web results. Would probably be the easiest way to penalize bad sites and promote good niche pages. But after they removed downvoting in Youtube, I wouldn't get my hopes up.