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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by throwaway894345 »

AlexandrB wrote: post #479
rayiner wrote: post #420

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Everyone is political. But “woke” people are like the old Christian right. They’re willing to use their control of institutions to prosthelytize their ideology in a way that ordinary liberals or conservatives aren’t.

Conservative states are literally passing laws banning the teaching of radical ideas like "gay people exist". If that's not "prosthelytizing their ideology", I don't know what is.

I'm no great fan of conservative politics, but this is just disinformation. There is no legislation that bans teaching "gay people exist".

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by Salgat »

fleddr wrote: post #678

I think people are really over-analyzing this move. I think it's motivated by prestige, not money, nor is free speech the heart of the matter. Twitter is a stagnant company. They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway. Long-lasting Twitter problems (culture, spam, algorithm issues) never seem addressed. User growth is stagnating…

Twitter facilitates knowledge transfer and communication. I'd argue they are one of the largest sources for communication on the internet, and with 200 million visitors every day, I'd say they are doing what they're supposed to be doing.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by [deleted] »

hackyhacky wrote: post #966
stale2002 wrote: post #445

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There are lots and lots of lefty places on the internet. I am sure that people on the left will do just fine, if there happens to be 1 major neutral platform that doesn't do as strict moderation.

You've not understood my post at all. I am not arguing against more strict moderation. I am saying that the apparent leftist tilt of, for example, Twitter, is not in fact a consequence of biased moderation, but rather a consequence of a bias in the underlying population: internet users tend to be more left.

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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by ChadNauseam »

boc wrote: post #652
blueflow wrote: post #336

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Is he doing like, bad things, or this is the regular everyday "racism" name-calling again? I'm having a "The boy who cried wolf" moment right now.

Normally I'd agree, but his father made his fortune from emerald mining in apartheid South Africa. Elon went to an all-white prep school that explicitly didn't allow black students. There's a pretty high chance that Elon was raised in a household that may not have been amazing on the whole racism front.

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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by Siira »

awb wrote: post #945
chmod600 wrote: post #933

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"Or is it the "I want everything I think to be received by everyone" that a good chunk of people seem to think it means?" Tweets aren't forced upon anyone. Twitter isn't a megaphone in a library. It's a flexible medium that allows you to follow the people who write/retweet stuff you want to read, and ignore others. Face it: if you interfere between Sally who writes something she wants Bob to read, and Bob who wants t…

> Face it: if you interfere between Sally who writes something she wants Bob to read, and Bob who wants to read what Sally wrote, that's censorship. What about national security, NDAs, illegal content, etc.? Two consenting parties doesn’t mean the speech is legal or good for society. > And no, I'm not interested in exploring extreme exceptions to the general principle. The Supreme Court is (to the count of hundreds o…

Thanks for providing a textbook example of “Whataboutism”. I used to not understand the term well.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by f1refly »

colinmhayes wrote: post #752
fleddr wrote: post #678

I think people are really over-analyzing this move. I think it's motivated by prestige, not money, nor is free speech the heart of the matter. Twitter is a stagnant company. They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway. Long-lasting Twitter problems (culture, spam, algorithm issues) never seem addressed. User growth is stagnating…

> People have been begging for an edit button for a decade. And they haven't implemented it because it's a truly horrible idea. If you messed up your tweet delete it. If it's already got traction, then it shouldn't be changed, especially because the edit feature would mostly be used maliciously to cancel retweeters.

> especially because the edit feature would mostly be used maliciously to cancel retweeters

It's almost like cancelling was always a garbage idea centered around lies ans deception from the start

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by onelovetwo »

astrange wrote: post #866
onelovetwo wrote: post #708

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Well even their team disagrees with you, they have for the last years chosen to focus on things like stories (dead), clubhouse (soon dead)instead of working on removing spam/scams

Twitter Spaces is good. Twitter is also very popular in Japan and Spaces isn't only a Clubhouse competitor, it's also a Twitcasting competitor over there. Though, twitcasting has more monetization options and Twitter only has super followers which nobody actually uses yet.

Twitter Spaces will die, its only a matter of time.

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Post by zht »

orblivion wrote: post #691
fleddr wrote: post #678

I think people are really over-analyzing this move. I think it's motivated by prestige, not money, nor is free speech the heart of the matter. Twitter is a stagnant company. They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway. Long-lasting Twitter problems (culture, spam, algorithm issues) never seem addressed. User growth is stagnating…

Why would Elon Musk spend his capacity to get things done on something like Twitter? He's got planets to colonize. Interesting point to question his motives, but for now I take him at his word regarding the free speech thing. I guess it could be something more nefarious as well.

his sense of vanity?

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Post by MrMan »

Xenixo wrote: post #685
Reebz wrote: post #676

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This is just a 2022 version of a billionaire buying a newspaper. Not shocking.

To do what? A newspaper I get. Forming opinions is easy with a newspaper. But with twitter? Manipulating Twitter trends? Who cares?

You realize twitter is most likely far more powerful at shaping opinion than any single newspaper? Fox News Facebook and Twitter are probably among the top 5 such mind control outlets. I am not on Twitter but I am motivated to research the reach Twitter has vs the TV networks, the major news papers and the bigger social networks which of course dwarf what we used to call MainStream Media.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by MrMan »

shmde wrote: post #159

Does HN crowd REALLY believe he is going to remove censorship and preserve the voice of the underclass ? Thats the most naive thing to believe.

This censorship hue and cry about Twitter is ridiculous.

But also quite frightening given how much I see it here in a forum of self-diagnosed geniuses[0].

[0]do your own research, have being poor

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