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Re: The next Google

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Indeed. We live in the eternal September. But to be honest the internet is still the internet. The web still exists. Any lamentation at the loss of the "old" internet is that you don't have more angry uncles spewing political rhetoric on your motorcycle forum. Do you want the unwashed masses in your specialist forums? I certainly don't. Seems to me things are working pretty well. I do worry about the next generation…

> Do you want the unwashed masses in your specialist forums? Having the choice between "unwashed masses" and "curated to suit political agenda" I would firmly choose the former. Before I get attacked on political agenda angle, please understand that it takes trained professional actively trying to remain objective to have impartial moderation. Many professional discussion moderators fail here and you just cannot expe…

> unwashed masses

The unwashed masses are often filthy and malicious (on the internet).

Moderation, of the governance and oversight meaning, is unforunately very necessary to keeping any pool from becoming a cesspit. By some combination of technical, volunteer, and participant effort (membership fee, or service requirement), areas can be kept decent.

Without this, decent and would-be participants are run off by spam, scams, trolls and harrassment, political rants, religious rants, etc.

Re: The next Google

#502

I just went on a mini vacation to Vegas, and was thinking how nice it would be to just call up someone and ask for some simple advice. I did a bunch of online research before I booked things, but man was it painful. There are so many copy-cat blogs who just throw together a bunch of basic information with no real research done in order to get those clicks/adwords. For example: best hotel pool in vegas. Seems simple e…

The future is trust networks. Where you trust a number of friends, who trust other people, etc. and you can use a matrix of trust to retrieve review scores, etc. Imagine trusting HN, visiting Amazon and getting all the reviews from other HN users ...

Thats basicaly current situation but we dont use "trust" word to describe it but we use "follow" word

Re: The next Google

#503
post #493

I feel like I'm the only one who is pretty happy with Google. Can someone tell me what they're searching for where Google is not satisfactory?

News or programming / development. On first pages, many clickbaits and generated spam sites.

Do you have any example queries? The only spam I normally see are the sites scraping Stack Overflow but they are never above the actual Stack Overflow page.

Re: The next Google

#505

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Just searched for "linux users" in marginalia and google. Google's first answer seemed spot on. (users command usage); Marginalia provided me with in comparison _marginal_ results. Maybe it is because google knows me better then i am aware of. I really don't notice google results getting worse, while i read so several times in HN comments...

Yeah it's not a search engine for answering questions, but for finding documents. You'll get along with it better if you see it as something like grep for the web. This is something I'm very intentionally trying to accomplish, as it's something I feel Google has gotten worse at.

Thanks for your reply! I will consider using Marginalia when looking for documents next time!

Re: The next Google

#506

One thing that sucks is that when I tried googling for NeevaScope, Google instead shows results for NervoScope, whatever the heck that is. I'm sure this was unintentional but it still feels anti-competitive. Anyways, here's NeevaScope: https://neeva.com/blog/introducing-neevascope

> but it still feels anti-competitive.

Why? _NeevaScope_ seems like _NervoScope_. And _NervoScope_ is a lot better known term.

Re: The next Google

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post #430

If memory serves me correctly Google once had a desktop widget with search like neeva. I could search email, files, Web, all at once from task bar. Neat. Maybe I dreamt that.

Yes you are correct. Google Desktop Search. Connected Apps in Neeva is similar but better. It supports indexing more apps, like Figma and GitHub.

Cool. I will check it out.

Edit: on the wait list

Re: The next Google

#508
post #393

> You can change everything, from surface level appearances, to the final ranking of results. People don’t want this. My first boss told me he would bet on regular TV if only streaming was left. He didn’t account for recommendation algorithms, so it’s easy to prove him wrong. But the takeaway here is that people prefer things working for them out of the box. That’s the secret to Apple’s or Google’s success: It just w…

> People don’t want this.

Yeah, and that's why Kagi.com is bigger and bigger.

Re: The next Google

#509
post #8

>But right after that, we’re greeted by an “Interesting Finds” section, which has a fun blog post by Derek Sivers, an article filled with stories of Steve Jobs in Japan, and some other cool things you can’t find on Google. You can definitely find these on Google.

How? Really. I've tried and didn't find this, checked to 5th page.

Re: The next Google

#510

Buying the kagi.com domain for a search engine might be suboptimal SEO for people with some longer memories: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12200972

https://kagi.com/faq#kagi-old

> That Kagi went bankrupt in an unfortunate turn of events. We liked the name and acquired it when we got the chance.

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