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Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

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Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

#151

1) Satisfy your creative needs You are highly creative and therefore need a creative outlet. Since you are interested in the intellectual side of things, you should probably write. A blog isn't cliche - it's an outlet. Nobody will read it nor care about it except you, but it serves the purpose of putting thoughts into words and coming to a clearer understanding of the things you are interested in. It exercises both t…

What is the one thing that you picked in the end? I believe its the hardest part, releasing the notion of the rest...

Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> YouTube (where the eyeballs willing to consume intellectual material are). Whyyyyyyyyy?! Seriously I'm curious, what happened? Do intellectuals (whatever that means) really not prefer reading any more? A desire for Podcasts/audiobooks I can understand, as someone who occasionally has to drive places, but video?

The problem with text as far as I see is discoverability. Google promotes YouTube videos, but the text sites I've seen ranked are just garbage like "7 ways to clean your sink". And video is a more addictive medium.

If you are doing some researches, Google almost never is your friend. Alphabet/Google/Youtube are not interested in moving science forward, their work is to pump your attention with their ads. Your friends are: torrents which are storing some books, sci-hub for free access to whitepapers, github for having some free software. So sorry that free access to whitepapers is less legal than advertisement of some scams like some kind of "investments".

> And video is a more addictive medium.

IMHO it is not about video but about smartphones. They are too optimized for consuming ads instead of sciences. For example, it is way more handy to watch videos while constantly being interrupted by social networks than to silent reading if you are already taking a smartphone in your hands.

Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

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OP here, gonna double post a couple of general replies to common themes, here's the first:

For those who mentioned/wondered about my day job / income, I work a "humble" warehouse job at a university bookstore, so I get to work with textbooks and general books regularly (though not all the time). This was how I got exposed to all these subjects! The pay isn't the greatest, but the university has great employment benefits and security.

And an interesting backstory: I actually started working here as a part-time seasonal cashier after dropping out of grad school and had to find something "random" to pay some bills. After a couple of seasons and no luck finding a "real job", my supervisor suggested that I apply for the warehouse opening. I was aversive to the idea, because I never would've imagined working a seemingly "lowly" warehouse job, especially as a "university grad". I applied anyway because I had no luck elsewhere, and I've stayed here ever since!

Honest to god, if I didn't work here, I would've stayed in the sciences with my head in the sand, clueless about other disciplines, clueless about the world.

Gonna quote one of the comments here: "The universe has a strange way of putting the pieces together... It will make sense looking back on it." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30928282

PS I love that you folks are actually thinking about this constructively. I'm blown away, can't thank you all enough!

Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

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OP here, the second of my general response, to these types of comments:

> I just want to mention here that "swimming in ideas" does not equal understanding.

> How do you know you are really moving anywhere but not standing?

> OP wants to read "textbooks to learn basic concepts" and "swim in their ideas". That doesn't equal competence.

> The reading/learning you are doing is entertainment. It's not that much better than watching TV - if anything it's worse because you can kid yourself into thinking you are doing work, or that it's important.

> AKA procrastinating.

To clarify, I completely understand these sentiments, and I am fully aware of the distinction between "understanding" vs simply "reading/learning", "swimming in ideas", etc.

I was once a young naive soul celebrating how I was such an honorable keen "learner". But as I matured, I started to become aware that this habit of learning that I (and many others on the internet, including on HN) was so proud of, was (often) mere accumulation of knowledge, without synthesizing or juxtaposing anything together. We consumed "knowledge" like some baby food, instead of actually engaging actively and critically with the material, chewing through it, etc.

Over the past several years, I've spent a very long time thinking through topics just like this, trying to dissect and discern basic concepts like "learning" vs "understanding", as well as a host of other fundamental topics that many people (including intellectuals) seem to misunderstand. The only reason I've been able to do this is because I've jumped from discipline to discipline, getting an overview of how they relate to one another, trying to piece together certain universals, or spotting points of disagreement between disciplines. Of course, I lack actual expertise in any of these topics, but I do understand the nature of complexity that underlies everything (I think my background in ecology and evolutionary biology has trained me well in this regard).

All this was why I specifically used the phrase "swimming in ideas", because I know full well that I am not (currently) doing much to actually understand these concepts and topics. I also stated "moving from ignorance slowly towards understanding" because I am deliberately moving very slowly through topics knowing that my goal is to gradually understand them more, rather than to simply accumulate "knowledge".

This isn't meant to be a hit-piece on people who simply love to learn for learning's sake. It's just my own philosophy and my path in trying to figure things out. Hope this clarifies things. :)

Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

#155

OP here, gonna double post a couple of general replies to common themes, here's the first: For those who mentioned/wondered about my day job / income, I work a "humble" warehouse job at a university bookstore, so I get to work with textbooks and general books regularly (though not all the time). This was how I got exposed to all these subjects! The pay isn't the greatest, but the university has great employment benef…

If working a "lowly" warehouse job and dabbling in many different subject areas is what makes you happy, that's obviously perfectly fine. But if you believe that dabbling in many different areas will actually somehow in the long run lead to any kind of (work-related) success you're dead wrong in my opinion. You have to focus most of your time on one or maybe two or three areas (after you have become really good at one thing) in order to be able to make any meaningful impact somewhere. Knowing a little of a lot of things is nice to have, but unfortunately has very little use in our society.

Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

#156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most marriages that are first marriages for both partners end in death. Doesn't sound like there's a lot of regret there. People want to stay married. Otherwise they wouldn't.

In the US, researchers estimate that 41% of all first marriages end in divorce [1]. I guess it's technically true that divorces are in the minority, but it does sound like there's a lot of regret there. [1] https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/

As someone who divorced, it doesn't mean that I regret my marriage. It didn't work out but that doesn't mean that we didn't also have good times or that the bad outweigh the good and from other friends who divorced, it doesn't seem that I'm the only one.

Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

#157

The reading/learning you are doing is entertainment. It's not that much better than watching TV - if anything it's worse because you can kid yourself into thinking you are doing work, or that it's important. You gotta do some work.

I responded to this more generally here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30930012

Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

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post #151

1) Satisfy your creative needs You are highly creative and therefore need a creative outlet. Since you are interested in the intellectual side of things, you should probably write. A blog isn't cliche - it's an outlet. Nobody will read it nor care about it except you, but it serves the purpose of putting thoughts into words and coming to a clearer understanding of the things you are interested in. It exercises both t…

What is the one thing that you picked in the end? I believe its the hardest part, releasing the notion of the rest...

I'm a software developer by trade, but for the last 2 years I've been studying with the focus of becoming an organisation director / coach with the ultimate goal of a consultant in the next few years.

So I need to learn a whole range of tools to be decent in such a position - facilitation, psychology, therapy techniques (not therapy though!), communication, public speaking (which I hate). Few people in software have these skillsets so I'm trying to attack a niche and hopefully make a decent living off it in the future.

I agree with what you say regarding releasing all the other stuff. Two things happened to me:

1) I started a family. Now I don't have the luxury of spending my evenings procrastinating on youtube and half-reading books. I have hard constraints of time and energy and need to be very deliberate with my time.

2) Focus on everything = Focus on nothing. I am the breadwinner in my family and want the best environment for them to flourish. This means earning a decent amount in a job I (hopefully) enjoy that have potential to grow in the future. If I don't focus on 1-2 key areas in my life everyday, I see they do not improve nor progress.

Prior to having a family, I knew and understood the points above. But the constraints and responsibilities now means I no longer have the luxury of waiting around to get to it tomorrow.

Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

#159

OP here, gonna double post a couple of general replies to common themes, here's the first: For those who mentioned/wondered about my day job / income, I work a "humble" warehouse job at a university bookstore, so I get to work with textbooks and general books regularly (though not all the time). This was how I got exposed to all these subjects! The pay isn't the greatest, but the university has great employment benef…

If working a "lowly" warehouse job and dabbling in many different subject areas is what makes you happy, that's obviously perfectly fine. But if you believe that dabbling in many different areas will actually somehow in the long run lead to any kind of (work-related) success you're dead wrong in my opinion. You have to focus most of your time on one or maybe two or three areas (after you have become really good at on…

Not looking for success, if I were I wouldn't still be packing boxes. Just trying to be more constructive and exploring various ways to make that happen.

Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

#160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I find it easier to concentrate for an hour or two on a video than a book. That is because video does not requires you to concentrate. Imagine a book which is required to be read in 1x or 1.25x or 1.5x or 2x only. Pretty impossible to read, isn't it? You know, some paragraphs may require several hours to be read. Video just doesn't support to be consumed at different speeds per paragraph.

How can you seriously say "video does not requires you to concentrate". I'm genuinely curious as to why you would think this is true.

> "video does not requires you to concentrate"

My English is not enough eloquent yet, so I share my anecdotal evidence. Some sentences in books is not understandable if reading only once, and we usually do not go to next one if the previous has been not understood. It is OK to read a sentence 5 times and to read another 2 places in previous parts of a book in order to understand that sentence. Going to a special place from previous parts of lecture might be a pain because of needness to re-listen some extra materials.

While watching video it is too easy to skip that hard sentences especially if professor is too charismatic to let us feel the needness to stop his lecture for a moment in order to think. And it is too hard to re-listen only the part is needed for re-listening, like when you can not parse one word (0.5 seconds long), so you press backwards and you realize that you need to relisten extra 4.5 seconds each re-reading.

That circumstances leads us to just keep listening while the pyramid of non-understanding actually grows on.

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