Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

The next Google

dkb.io

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

421–430 of 561 posts

Re: The next Google

#421

Post by radicality »

outloudvi wrote: post #415

Have tried Kagi for a while as a beta user. It generally works fine, but I am just reminded every time when I try to do a search via Private Browsing - and Kagi, a subscription service, will apparently ask me to login - that each of my search history will be able to be linked to an individual. Then it's definitely not what I want.

Also a beta user. I wonder if the final version you’ll be able to stay pseudoanonymous - pay with crypto, no email, etc (kinda like Mullvad).

Not defending them and also dislike this (but can’t think of a way involving payments which doesn’t do it). I do find their privacy policy quite clear and transparent - https://kagi.com/privacy

And also let’s not kid ourselves - I would guess this is still likely more privacy-forward than a Private Session on Google. Would be surprised if Google isn’t using every potential signal to fingeprint you and link back that session back to some other login.

Re: The next Google

#422

Post by chrismcb »

legohead wrote: post #98

I just went on a mini vacation to Vegas, and was thinking how nice it would be to just call up someone and ask for some simple advice. I did a bunch of online research before I booked things, but man was it painful. There are so many copy-cat blogs who just throw together a bunch of basic information with no real research done in order to get those clicks/adwords. For example: best hotel pool in vegas. Seems simple e…

Feels like you asked the wrong question. You asked about the best pool, not the best hotel with a good pool. But even do, I've read many sites that tell a little bit the hotel when I search for the best pool. Not one of them listed circus circus

Re: The next Google

#423

Post by rrrrrrrrrrrryan »

Youden wrote: post #290
chrisshroba wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find reddit works remarkably well for this. I've gotten great actionable recommendations within an hour or two for: - good coffeeshops - tacos - Korean grocery stores - places that have traditional style al pastor tacos - finding a specific coffee brand at a local grocery store - finding EDM songs similar to a particular song (dullscythe) - hot chicken - canolis and a bunch more similar things. I would think if you…

You need to be careful about reading the subreddit rules when you do this though. In my for-locals subreddit tourists asking questions like this were a plague, even when there was a very clear and prominent rule forbidding any kind of tourism content. Also important to at least try searching at first. So many people thought they had a super original question but it'd really been asked and answered to death already.

Coincidentally, the top post today on /r/SanDiego was a guy asking about the best burger in town and the mods ripped it down, saying "Nice try, zonie."

Re: The next Google

#424

Post by radicality »

Ennea wrote: post #307
richardsocher wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi Ennea, Can you help me understand why you make this particular change in the config?

To be perfectly honest, I cannot even remember making that change, but also couldn't find any info on whether Firefox or some extension may have done this. I will leave it disabled, however, because its purpose seems to be analytics, and opting out of (at least some of) them this way seems like a good idea. Since disabling it this way removes the `sendBeacon` function from existence, you should just be prepared to pr…

Is it always about analytics? Or is it ocassionaly also a useful API for other tasks?

I know little about front end JS dev, but the docs say it’s just a way to send an asynchronous request (no response) with a guarantee that the the request will be sent out, even if the page starts unloading. That’s apparently not a guarantee with the two other to send requests - XmlHttpRequest and fetch api.

Re: The next Google

#425

Post by prawn »

ip26 wrote: post #205
legohead wrote: post #98

I just went on a mini vacation to Vegas, and was thinking how nice it would be to just call up someone and ask for some simple advice. I did a bunch of online research before I booked things, but man was it painful. There are so many copy-cat blogs who just throw together a bunch of basic information with no real research done in order to get those clicks/adwords. For example: best hotel pool in vegas. Seems simple e…

Isn’t that called a travel agent?

Are travel agents particularly well travelled and well enough that they'd know specifics about hotel pools in Vegas?

Re: The next Google

#426

Post by usefulcat »

ipaddr wrote: post #400
unethical_ban wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DuckDuckGo is horrendous for spam and malware distribution. I have stopped recommending it to non-technical people because they can't recognize the obviously evil/bad-pattern sites that are on the first page of many DDG searches I do

What are you searching for?

Ditto. Been using DDG for daily for years. It's far from perfect but this does not sound remotely familiar.

Re: The next Google

#427

Post by 312c »

radicality wrote: post #424
Ennea wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be perfectly honest, I cannot even remember making that change, but also couldn't find any info on whether Firefox or some extension may have done this. I will leave it disabled, however, because its purpose seems to be analytics, and opting out of (at least some of) them this way seems like a good idea. Since disabling it this way removes the `sendBeacon` function from existence, you should just be prepared to pr…

Is it always about analytics? Or is it ocassionaly also a useful API for other tasks? I know little about front end JS dev, but the docs say it’s just a way to send an asynchronous request (no response) with a guarantee that the the request will be sent out, even if the page starts unloading. That’s apparently not a guarantee with the two other to send requests - XmlHttpRequest and fetch api.

The beacon api was created specifically to be a lightweight method for telemetry/logging

Re: The next Google

#428

Post by prawn »

legohead wrote: post #98

I just went on a mini vacation to Vegas, and was thinking how nice it would be to just call up someone and ask for some simple advice. I did a bunch of online research before I booked things, but man was it painful. There are so many copy-cat blogs who just throw together a bunch of basic information with no real research done in order to get those clicks/adwords. For example: best hotel pool in vegas. Seems simple e…

Not sure if it's changed, but Oyster was historically known for really detailed Vegas hotel reviews. They'd surely have a list of best hotel pools.

https://www.oyster.com/las-vegas/hotels/

You can also get some decent mileage out of Booking.com and checking reviews for keywords. That won't help you quickly find the best hotel pool, but it will help you find out what people think of a specific hotel's pool (e.g., Circus Circus).

Re: The next Google

#429

Post by redisman »

elwell wrote: post #394
mmaunder wrote: post #304

Know how you’ll find the next Google? Same way those of us over 45 found this one. A respected friend or colleague will tell you that the next Google just works better. That’s what made Google search win: it just worked better. It’s now I found out about it and probably how you did if you’re pushing 50. We didn’t care about pagerank or know what it is. That came after we used it and wanted to know why it worked bette…

I can still visualize a memory from my high school library, when my friend showed me Google search for the first time. I think I had been using Dogpile.

I was a Altavista die-hard. Google was a great improvement. Honestly I think this is just asking the wrong question. In the world of walled gardens and industrial SEO I just don’t think a search engine will be the “next Google”

Re: The next Google

#430

Post by farmin »

If memory serves me correctly Google once had a desktop widget with search like neeva. I could search email, files, Web, all at once from task bar. Neat. Maybe I dreamt that.
Post reply on HN