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Re: Your number one priority

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Post by DaveMebs »

Mc_Big_G wrote: post #15
tkiley wrote: post #7

This is one of the reasons our development team is located on Vancouver Island. We could have set up shop in the middle of Silicon Valley's startup culture, but instead, we set up shop in the middle of world-class mountain biking, hiking, surfing, rock climbing, and snowboarding. Collectively, our team gets no shortage of exercise! Incidentally, outdoor activities provide a great environment for generating creative s…

I just moved to the bay area last December so I don't know all the best places yet, but you can do everything you just described very easily in SV.

CA is amazing for everything described above, and doable from the SV, but it is muchless convenient than I imagine Vancouver Island is. Living in Seattle I can be actively engaged in any of the above with a 45 minute drive or less. From the SV, you are likely looking at a trip to Tahoe for any good climbing, hiking or skiing. It's doable, just not as convenient. (Note: I hate to appeal to authority, but I lived outside Sac for 4 years and Seattle the last year, and it is definitely easier here.)

Re: Your number one priority

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Post by seven_stones »

MaxGabriel wrote: post #22
seven_stones wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hate to burst anyone's bubble but Tim Ferriss is selling snake oil. The 4 Hour Body is roundly and deservedly mocked on bodybuilding forums. Its claims are completely delusional. Among them: # How Tim gained 34 pounds of muscle in 28 days, without steroids, and in four hours of total gym time # How to sleep 2 hours per day and feel fully rested # How to triple testosterone and double sperm count # How to go from runn…

I don't think any of your arguments are very responsive to Ferris's reasoning. For example, that it's "ludicrous" for him to gain muscle with so little gym time is not responsive to the argument that not allowing muscles time to recover retards growth. Moreover, I think it's a misinterpretation to say that Tim is promising people, say, 2 hours of sleep per day by reading his book. His book is a documentation of exper…

> is not responsive to the argument that not allowing muscles time to recover retards growth.

That point isn't in dispute. What is in dispute is the degree of alleged growth.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

> and especially for sleep is partly theoretical

Especially since he himself is nowhere close to the 2 hours claim. I heard someone else did this...

> Moreover, I think it's a misinterpretation to say that Tim is promising people, say, 2 hours of sleep per day by reading his book.

"YOU WILL LEARN (in less than 30 minutes each)

# How to sleep 2 hours per day and feel fully rested"

"From the gym to the bedroom, it's all here, and it all works."

"You don't need better genetics or more discipline. You need immediate results that compel you to continue.

That's exactly what The 4-Hour Body delivers."

http://www.fourhourbody.com/

Praise quotes for the book, FROM the book:

“Timothy has packed more lives into his 29 years than Steve Jobs has in his 51.” —Tom Foremski, journalist and publisher of SiliconValleyWatcher.com ...More lives? Remove the "v" and I'd agree.

“Reading this book is like putting a few zeros on your income. Tim brings lifestyle to a new level—listen to him!” —Michael D. Kerlin, McKinsey & Company consultant to Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund and a J. William Fulbright Scholar

“Tim has done what most people only dream of doing. I can’t believe he is going to let his secrets out of the bag. This book is a must read!” —Stephen Key, top inventor and team designer of Teddy Ruxpin and Lazer Tag and a consultant to the television show American Inventor

And the subtitle:

"AN UNCOMMON GUIDE TO RAPID FAT-LOSS, INCREDIBLE SEX, AND BECOMING SUPERHUMAN"

How much Kool-Aid does someone have to drink before they aren't embarrassed to buy into these breathless sensationalist claims?

Re: Your number one priority

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Post by wnight »

geogra4 wrote: post #29

In my experience diet is WAY more important than exercise. I bike to work about 3 miles so I get some moderate exercise but not a great deal. What really changed my body is when I decided to go vegan. I eat far healthier than I ever have and literally feel like my body can breathe again. I recommend everyone try to get more vegetables and fewer animal products into their diets, even if they don't really want to make…

I lost ~50kg over a few years from a plant-based diet and minimal exercise.

Re: Your number one priority

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Post by benjiweber »

tkiley wrote: post #7

This is one of the reasons our development team is located on Vancouver Island. We could have set up shop in the middle of Silicon Valley's startup culture, but instead, we set up shop in the middle of world-class mountain biking, hiking, surfing, rock climbing, and snowboarding. Collectively, our team gets no shortage of exercise! Incidentally, outdoor activities provide a great environment for generating creative s…

A practical way to get exercise anywhere is to arrange to live about 20 miles from your office and cycle to work every day. Convenient way to get exercise, wake up in the morning, and de-stress after work.

Re: Your number one priority

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Post by wtn »

seven_stones wrote: post #17
missy wrote: post #2

Tim Ferriss made some excellent observations and developed methods on how to optimise your time related to work and personal time. I ve tested several his hypothesis and they did have some impact on me. I just bought the 4 hour body and I can see this same thinking of his this " 80 / 20 " Paretos Law. I think if you can read both these books , snythesis Body and Lifestyle using his principle based on the 80 / 20 you…

Hate to burst anyone's bubble but Tim Ferriss is selling snake oil. The 4 Hour Body is roundly and deservedly mocked on bodybuilding forums. Its claims are completely delusional. Among them: # How Tim gained 34 pounds of muscle in 28 days, without steroids, and in four hours of total gym time # How to sleep 2 hours per day and feel fully rested # How to triple testosterone and double sperm count # How to go from runn…

Hey, thanks for bringing my attention the 50K in 12 weeks suggestion.

I found some nice tips from that passage in a PDF version of the book and I think I can finish an ultra-marathon by the end of October with less than one month of training. I did -0- workouts and ate cake and pizza during the prior 30 days.

50K is too easy. I'll do 50 miles in a real race.

Want to make a bet—or a challenge—out of this?

Unlike yourself, I'm not particularly athletic. The longest timed race I have entered was a 12K (finish time of 1:07:11 for the May 2011 Bay to Breakers). I have done some nature hikes longer than that, though. Haven't gone to the gym, lifted weights, sprinted, or cross-trained in over a year.

Message me if you're interested. Contact info on my HN profile.

Re: Your number one priority

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Post by chronomex »

benjiweber wrote: post #44
tkiley wrote: post #7

This is one of the reasons our development team is located on Vancouver Island. We could have set up shop in the middle of Silicon Valley's startup culture, but instead, we set up shop in the middle of world-class mountain biking, hiking, surfing, rock climbing, and snowboarding. Collectively, our team gets no shortage of exercise! Incidentally, outdoor activities provide a great environment for generating creative s…

A practical way to get exercise anywhere is to arrange to live about 20 miles from your office and cycle to work every day. Convenient way to get exercise, wake up in the morning, and de-stress after work.

I do a similar thing, but I live a few miles away and walk to work. A bonus: Crossing the grid diagonally allows me to vary my route frequently without any additional time penalty.

Re: Your number one priority

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Post by skrebbel »

slewis wrote: post #26

I have to add a second priority: get enough sleep. For me sleep is more important to my productivity than exercise (though of course exercise helps with sleep). I don't know if everyone is as dependent on a good night's sleep as I am, but I feel the effects of waking up even 30 minutes too early. Its like night and day (intended).

My experience is that with ridiculously much exercise, I can do with less sleep and still feel excellent.

However, that usually means trading one hour of sleep for one hour of additional exercise. And I'm lazy, so sleep it is! :-)

The thing I'm jealous at you US people for most of all (except those from Maine and Alaska) is the ability to wake up with the sun each morning. Here in Northern Europe, the seasonal differences are simply too large.

Re: Your number one priority

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Post by guard-of-terra »

mannicken wrote: post #12

I never exercise. I hate exercising. I do dance several times a week, however, and like to walk around/be jittery so I hope that helps me stay in shape. I don't stay in the house much -- it makes me depressed. Essentially I'm getting a kick out of using my body to move me around, make it do things. And I keep a daily chart of weight that helps me intuitively feel when to stop eating. Right now I'm at around 78 kg at…

I second that. I'd better read an article on "How to avoid exercising all together and still rock on" because I ming bogglingly hate the concept.

I love doing things. I like climbing hills, swimming seas, walking cities. But I HATE HATE HATE just being in the room and doing funny things with my limbs until you die of boredom.

Running is not okay also unless you're running from someone scary.

Re: Your number one priority

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Post by dudurocha »

knodi wrote: post #11

I have taken up Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu(BJJ) for about the last 4 months and it has done wonders for me. My energy levels are higher, my mind is sharper, and my confidence is better then its has ever been. Not only its a nice break from my day but it has become my second passion in life. 4 classes a week hour each is not a bad investment in one's self.

I'm taking classes too. And in the last couple weeks I've been off because off classes and overwork. Maan, this is bad. I need to get back. And about BJJ, I'm really enjoying it. Its wonderful how its making me more confident and active.

Re: Your number one priority

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Post by medinism »

rkalla wrote: post #33
slewis wrote: post #26

I have to add a second priority: get enough sleep. For me sleep is more important to my productivity than exercise (though of course exercise helps with sleep). I don't know if everyone is as dependent on a good night's sleep as I am, but I feel the effects of waking up even 30 minutes too early. Its like night and day (intended).

Couldn't click "Up" enough times on this. The difference in productivity between a day preceded by a good night's sleep and one where I stayed up late then got up early are probably 50-75% for me. Diet, exercise, weight loss, meditation, walking, music, etc. etc. etc... nothing has as much an effect on my mood and mental performance as sleep does. I can literally eat butter until my knees buckle and as long as I get…

Sleep for sure is good and important, but in a pinch good 20 minutes of cardio will send enough fresh blood to your brain to energize you for the rest of the day and you can still hit the sack hard at the end of it.
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