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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by cguess »

slibhb wrote: post #189
jimnotgym wrote: post #160

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I may be seen as a villain to Ayn Rand disciples, mainly because I may point out I have seen people do amazing things without becoming billionaires at consumers expense.

I'm not an Ayn Rand disciple. But she had a point about certain people and how they view the world. Musk is rich on paper but the stocks are massively overvalued for various reasons. The idea that "billionaires are evil people who exploit innocent laborers" is false and it comes from a place of resentment.

She did talk about how certain people view the world. She also advocated for that world view, and then died on welfare (the irony).

And yes, billionaires absolutely build their wealth on the backs of others. There's simply no way to become a billionaire without exploiting a system and taking advantage of others in some way. It may be legal, but legality took a sharp turn away from morality a long long time ago.

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Post by 0F »

mhh__ wrote: post #453
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Puh-lease. Bias means tendency to lean a certain way, you can’t have bias in 2 opposite directions. The pro Elon crowd here is a minority. Something I’ll never understand, being that this is an entrepreneurial forum and Elon is the worlds best entrepreneur. Jealousy perhaps?

What I'm saying is that you can't reduce the whole site down to one made up measure of bias. Maybe it is jealousy, maybe it's that he's a neurotic moron who's more than happy to try and ruin the careers of little people. How many of the great entrepreneurs of history got embarrassed after their scheme doesn't work and call their competitor a paedophile? You can recognize his skills while also recognizing that he's no…

No, the bias is everywhere and HN is just reflecting that universal bias. It’s very popular to dislike Elon musk and it’s very unpopular to be a supporter. Count the number of supporters vs detractors in any mainstream thread — musk haters will be the majority every single time despite the fact that his detractors refer constantly to a phantom army of supporters. Every Reddit thread is basically 100 people responding to non-existent “fan boy” straw men. And they also like to spread the falsehood that Elon musk used gem mine money to become successful. It’s literally just made up nonsense.

People like to act like his pedo tweet was some kind of crime against humanity. Let’s have a look at your twitter if you’re so indignant. People are such shameless hypocrites.

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Post by cguess »

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That's part of it, but I think it's more envy driven. He took his winnings at Paypal and bet it all to transform 2 industries. While most of us would have retired, blew it on a mansion and binge watch Game of Thrones in our private theater. Where would we be with electric cars and space right now if he had spent the past 20 years sailing on a yacht collecting supermodels? He could have done that instead. He shows wha…

Remember when he called that diver in Thailand a pedophile because the diver (one of the most experienced cave divers in the world) called his idea dumb as shit? That's why I don't like him (well, one of the many many reasons, but a big one).

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Post by redytedy »

esprehn wrote: post #452
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His companies compensate engineers below market, does he not? Also- weird take that both of your examples seem to focus on one specific genre of role. I’ve dealt with many more useless software engineering and product managers on a day-to-day basis than HR-types, who are there if you want/need to contact them or in the background if you don’t. Maybe Musk would benefit from them, actually …especially considering Tesla…

> His companies compensate engineers below market, does he not? This varies by division. Auto Pilot for example is way over paying currently compared to peer companies. On average pay at Elon's companies is below what you'd get from FANG though.

> Auto Pilot for example is way over paying currently compared to peer companies

I don't think this is true unless you're talking about very senior positions. But they can give large bonuses.

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Post by Loughla »

zionic wrote: post #261
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The SEC has been asleep for years now. Every week we see market whales pulling gamma squeezes and pumping tech stocks higher and higher. The market is a joke at this point.

Asleep? SEC has been screwing small investors for as long as it’s been around. Screw the SEC, just another in a long list of government agencies that shouldn’t exist.

>just another in a long list of government agencies that shouldn’t exist.

I would add 'in its current form' onto the end of that.

The problem is, we have these agencies, so we can say, "look, we're fixing the problem," but then we provide them neither the power nor funding to really do anything but be annoying. I am firmly convinced this is by design. One side gets to say, "look we fixed it" and the other gets to say, "look it doesn't work and never will," and nothing changes.

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Post by dijonman2 »

kreeben wrote: post #352
beaconstudios wrote: post #285

you're right, hopefully all those political woke people will go elsewhere. Then they can be replaced by people who believe in minimal oversight and free speech, and then twitter will be truly apolitical.

"Un-woke" people are greater than or at least equally political compared to those you call "woke", is my experience from real life as well as internet encounters with them, so your longing for an apolitical Twitter/online public town square seems a pipe dream, I'm afraid.

Personal anecdote. I’m anti-woke, and I don’t discuss politics in any significant quantity.

Instead I believe in being a decent person.

We can talk until we’re green in the face but I welcome the day Twitter stops being a leftist authoritarian echo chamber.

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Post by dijonman2 »

beaconstudios wrote: post #356
kreeben wrote: post #352

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"Un-woke" people are greater than or at least equally political compared to those you call "woke", is my experience from real life as well as internet encounters with them, so your longing for an apolitical Twitter/online public town square seems a pipe dream, I'm afraid.

yeah I know, I was being sarcastic. There's no such thing as apolitical in any sphere that engages with real-world issues of contention.

I was hoping you were serious.

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Post by panick21_ »

root_axis wrote: post #300
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>A decent chunk of people in the previous thread were saying he’s doing it to kill the bot that tracks his plane’s movements Those people are idiots though. The kid said he would turn off the bot for $50k. You think Elon bought 9% of Twitter to avoid paying $50k?

I don't think it's about that, but I am absolutely sure that Musk would sooner pay 100x the cost in order to send a "fuck you" to someone that rankled him rather than take the ego hit and pay the 50k even if it's a pittance to him.

That a totally insane take. Maybe if it was Bezos or somebody. Not for some kid.

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Post by AlexandrB »

rayiner wrote: post #420
kreeben wrote: post #352

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"Un-woke" people are greater than or at least equally political compared to those you call "woke", is my experience from real life as well as internet encounters with them, so your longing for an apolitical Twitter/online public town square seems a pipe dream, I'm afraid.

Everyone is political. But “woke” people are like the old Christian right. They’re willing to use their control of institutions to prosthelytize their ideology in a way that ordinary liberals or conservatives aren’t.

Conservative states are literally passing laws banning the teaching of radical ideas like "gay people exist". If that's not "prosthelytizing their ideology", I don't know what is.

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Post by blenderdt »

jmkni wrote: post #5

I think Twitter's CEO summed it up well, and I agree: > He’s both a passionate believer and intense critic of the service which is exactly what we need on @Twitter, and in the boardroom, to make us stronger in the long-term. Welcome Elon! https://twitter.com/paraga/status/1511320964813910017

Those are just polite words.

Why does a critic make Twitter stronger? And why is that needed?

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