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Re: The next Google

#21
> DuckDuckGo and Bing are not true alternatives – they’re just worse versions of Google.

Glad to disagree, DuckDuckGo is good enough if not great.

Re: The next Google

#22

These solutions don't answer any of the fundamental problems with Google: - who pays for the service (ads? users pay? Average user will never use a paid service if a free one is available) - how to resist attacks against the algorithm (Google has been fighting spam for decades) - how to personalize without invading privacy, e.g. Google had an option to search through your email in Google search...it's gone now, I won…

Kagi is "users pay". Yes, average users won't pay, but I don't see how that matters to me as a Kagi user.

Re: The next Google

#23

> Everybody has different preferences of how they want a search engine to look and feel. This sounds like it was written by the infamous Dropbox commenter. No, most people have never given a single thought to this.

Agreed, but I think there's probably a profitable business to be made out of 1% of Google Search's users.

Re: The next Google

#24
No search engine has tried to address the issue of the user's context for the search.

- does my current location matter for the search?

- am I trying to spend money (shopping), or trying to get information (facts)?

Re: The next Google

#25
Happy to answer any questions you all might have about Neeva. I left Google to join Neeva about a year ago. Got inspired by the opportunity to make a better product. AMA :)

Re: The next Google

#26
post #13

Search is the wrong way to look at it. It needs to answer questions, like an oracle. Anyway, Google is getting less relevant because the technology is getting better than "good enough", and any additional tech that Google adds is not really all that useful. It's like PCs. You don't need a faster one because your old one can do word processing just fine.

I think this was called AskJeeves. Google rolled over them without breaking a sweat.

Re: The next Google

#27
In my view Google could possibly be the next Google. They're leading in AI right now and if they can get the magic we've seen in some of their papers into products like Search or Google Assistant it would be major moment.

Re: The next Google

#28

The next Google should have less AI and be more deterministic. At least it should have a mode where it searches exactly what I specify instead of searching what it thinks I want. Also give me options to filter out certain domains. Again, let me tell the search engine what I want instead of the engine telling me what I may want. I feel a lot of modern software is becoming very authoritarian. “We know better than you w…

Kagi can filter domains. Do try it.

Re: The next Google

#29
post #21

> DuckDuckGo and Bing are not true alternatives – they’re just worse versions of Google. Glad to disagree, DuckDuckGo is good enough if not great.

> Glad to disagree, DuckDuckGo is good enough if not great.

For anything that isn’t the least bit obscure or technical. (Same with just about every search engine)

IIRC, someone on hn said that search engines are only good for things you already know are there, not for finding new information or different perspectives.

Re: The next Google

#30

> Everybody has different preferences of how they want a search engine to look and feel. This sounds like it was written by the infamous Dropbox commenter. No, most people have never given a single thought to this.

Agreed, but I think there's probably a profitable business to be made out of 1% of Google Search's users.

I think you’re still off by an order or magnitude (or two).

It might plenty to create a nice business, but a bit absurd to call it the next Google.

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