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Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by temp8964 »

deanCommie wrote: post #339
AustinDev wrote: post #147

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An employee exodus from Twitter would only be a good thing in my eyes. They're all too ideological from my experience.

Can you name one public Twitter ideology except a commitment to not spread vaccine misinformation? At this point if anyone thinks that vaccine debate is ideological, I don't think we will change each others mind in either way, but I'm just curious if there are any examples. As far as I can tell that is the one and only piece of controversy. They banned Trump.

Really? Only one? How about they banned New York Post because of the Hunter Biden story?

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by choppaface »

babl-yc wrote: post #340
1970-01-01 wrote: post #245

Elon is the wealthiest person ever. He will bend Twitter to help all his existing businesses increase his wealth, all while making more money doing so. How could you possibly think otherwise?

If you think that Elon's pure objective is to get rich and live a lavish lifestyle, you haven't followed him very closely. My impression is that he uses his wealth mostly to invest in other ventures that he feels are important causes to him.

For Musk, getting rich and living a lavish lifestyle is exactly the same as investing in causes he feels are important to him.

The problem here isn’t that Musk is necessarily greedier than any other majority shareholder, it’s that Musk is greedy in a peculiar way that is at odds with so many other people in the world. It’s important to embrace and understand differences, but put too much leverage behind one voice or vision and there will be consequences. And there’s a lot of criticism and evidence that Musk does not use his leverage over others responsibly.

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Post by leesec »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #245

Elon is the wealthiest person ever. He will bend Twitter to help all his existing businesses increase his wealth, all while making more money doing so. How could you possibly think otherwise?

Oh no, one of the world's most useful and brilliant people might make more money. :(

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Post by bequanna »

thebradbain wrote: post #348
bequanna wrote: post #302

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His companies compensate engineers below market, does he not? Also- weird take that both of your examples seem to focus on one specific genre of role. I’ve dealt with many more useless software engineering and product managers on a day-to-day basis than HR-types, who are there if you want/need to contact them or in the background if you don’t. Maybe Musk would benefit from them, actually …especially considering Tesla…

Regarding the CA issues, as I noted on a similar comment:

> I'm sure this is all 100% true and in no way backlash for Musk's decision to shift operations away from California and very loud criticism of CA's politicians/bureaucrats.

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Post by alimov »

babl-yc wrote: post #340
1970-01-01 wrote: post #245

Elon is the wealthiest person ever. He will bend Twitter to help all his existing businesses increase his wealth, all while making more money doing so. How could you possibly think otherwise?

If you think that Elon's pure objective is to get rich and live a lavish lifestyle, you haven't followed him very closely. My impression is that he uses his wealth mostly to invest in other ventures that he feels are important causes to him.

While I have a somewhat similar impression of his use of wealth I think it’s important to remember that his public persona is well crafted. Following him “very closely” to me just means that the one doing the following is drinking all of the kool-aid

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Post by daenz »

babl-yc wrote: post #340
1970-01-01 wrote: post #245

Elon is the wealthiest person ever. He will bend Twitter to help all his existing businesses increase his wealth, all while making more money doing so. How could you possibly think otherwise?

If you think that Elon's pure objective is to get rich and live a lavish lifestyle, you haven't followed him very closely. My impression is that he uses his wealth mostly to invest in other ventures that he feels are important causes to him.

But he makes money from those ventures and is therefore immoral! /s

I don't understand why so many people seem to hold the attitude that the only acceptable response to someone having money is to pressure them to squander it by giving it all away to atrociously inefficient systems (government, charities, etc). Making money is not immoral. And neither is using money to make investments to make more money.

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Post by jack_squat »

bequanna wrote: post #320
NelsonMinar wrote: post #280

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One problem is the culture he's created at his other companies. "Black Tesla employees describe a culture of racism: ‘I was at my breaking point’ " https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-03-25/black-tesl... "California sues Tesla, alleging rampant racism at factory" https://www.npr.org/2022/02/15/1080884899/california-sues-te... "Black workers accused Tesla of racism for years. Now California is stepping in" htt…

I'm sure this is all 100% true and in no way backlash for Musk's decision to shift operations away from California and very loud criticism of CA's politicians/bureaucrats.

Do you think that's how it works? I have no idea, what's your evidence?

California's actions seems pretty consistent with this to me: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.31...

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