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Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by ashtonkem »

slibhb wrote: post #150
justapassenger wrote: post #42

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Misleading investors is one of Elon’s main jobs. And he’ll continue doing so, as we doesn’t face any consequences for it (expect for becoming ultra rich).

Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). But what Tesla has done is insane. It's happened so quickly, and that's leaving aside the rockets. The hard evidence that we can build new things, that we can progress and build a future that's better than the present is so important. If it takes a flawed man to show us that, I'll take it. If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure ou…

All I see with Tesla is how government policy can successfully change markets. Tesla exists not because of Musk’s genius[0], but because of tax credits and carbon offset credits that allowed Tesla to be profitable early. Without Musk, someone else would’ve pulled it off, without the policy Musk would have done something else.

0 - Again, Musk didn’t found tesla, he did a hostile takeover and has tried to rewrite history with him as the founder.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by tim333 »

kache_ wrote: post #232
rednerrus wrote: post #89

I know it's not popular but I like the fact that he's annoyed and did something about it.

He's not popular on hacker news. He's definitely popular

I'd say there's a mixed reaction on HN. I think he's kinda cool with the 0-60 in 2 secs cars and trying to make mankind multiplanetary but the haters seem much more inclined to post.

It seems a little contrary to the - Have curious conversation; .... Please don't sneer... guidelines. A lot of sneering going on when Musk gets a mention.

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Post by dav_Oz »

shmde wrote: post #159

Does HN crowd REALLY believe he is going to remove censorship and preserve the voice of the underclass ? Thats the most naive thing to believe.

My take on this is that he wants to bring back more of a wild west. I kinda sympathize with the sentiment to create a more relaxed version of Twitter where only the obvious in terms of free speech is excluded (like MMA/Vale Tudo - in terms of a "free fight"- not allowing eye gouging etc.) but this certainly isn't something for everyone. Not a lot of people can stomach 4chan taking this to an extreme.

So how you go about this? As a mere mortal you are damned to create a new thing, create a PR-campaign from the outside to pressure Twitter ... the usual things. But as the richest person on the planet you don't only possess the resources to do all the above way better, additionally you can simply just buy up "Twitter". Which is kind of crazy like buying up a restaurant after not being satisfied with the service.

Well, the stock price did go up significantly and yeah, in order to make things "more fun" for Twitter users again (the most active being obviously not underclass) one can relax some "out of control" censorship practices.

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Post by hintymad »

andrew_ wrote: post #52
JamesAdir wrote: post #9

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Elon is his one of his new bosses, I would take anything the CEO says with a grain of salt.

I give his tenure as CEO 6 months at most before he's forced out by the board, or resigns for ideological differences. The changing wind that Elon is going to usher in is going to be fundamental and sweeping, and I wouldn't be surprised to see an exodus of employees follow.

Elon is just one of the board directors. I was wondering why people believe that he will have such sweeping power to change Twitter.

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Post by astrea »

pinot wrote: post #309
1970-01-01 wrote: post #245

Elon is the wealthiest person ever. He will bend Twitter to help all his existing businesses increase his wealth, all while making more money doing so. How could you possibly think otherwise?

Ever? Hardly

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Post by zionic »

onpensionsterm wrote: post #60
jdrc wrote: post #19

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Does American government censor the press? Or mail?

In living memory, through McCarthyism.

>McCarthyism

Isn’t that “ism” largely discredited? He was right, the government/institutions were full of communists. Today they’ve rebranded as socialists, but to my knowledge everything he fought against came to pass.

Attaching the -ism label is just a thought-terminating cliche.

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Post by md2020 »

dahfizz wrote: post #126
freedomben wrote: post #104

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Is Elon a Republican or Conservative? I've seen variations of this regarding balancing ownership and improving free speech, but aside from a few cryptic tweets about cancel culture, has Elon ever said anything? In interviews (especially the famous Rogan interview) he seems pretty disinterested in politics.

Anyone who isn't an outspoken liberal is a conservative. Welcome to American politics.

In America, progressives/leftists actually lump in “liberals” as “conservative” now since traditionally “liberal” means support of typical Enlightenment values, democracy, and free market capitalism. But I’ve noticed that people who vote Republican refer to progressives/leftists as “liberals”, so it’s all very confusing.
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