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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by manquer »

neilc wrote: post #226
tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #156

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Its a modern incarnation of a billionaire buying a newspaper. Has that ever worked out well? Has it ever been altruistic?

I don't think Bezos' ownership of the Washington Post has gone badly so far.

Not much for WaPo perhaps, but for bezos that put him in the target sights of lot of people

Many of them state sponsored like Saudi government which targeted him after kashtogi.

He also got hacked and his dick pics were maybe compromised.

Those hacks could have accelerated his divorce too.

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Post by thepasswordis »

jjulius wrote: post #217
slibhb wrote: post #150

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Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). But what Tesla has done is insane. It's happened so quickly, and that's leaving aside the rockets. The hard evidence that we can build new things, that we can progress and build a future that's better than the present is so important. If it takes a flawed man to show us that, I'll take it. If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure ou…

>If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure out why. So, I'm going to reply to your comment but really, this is relevant to most of this thread (and nearly every thread about him), because I'm just tired of these conversations. Yes, by many measures, he has been incredibly successful at both running businesses and amassing wealth. There are a lot of metrics that you could cite that support tha…

>I'm just tired of these conversations.

And yet here you are, engaging in one of them. I echo the parents request of a deep meditation on why you are feeling this way.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by cjbgkagh »

beaconstudios wrote: post #165
AustinDev wrote: post #147

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An employee exodus from Twitter would only be a good thing in my eyes. They're all too ideological from my experience.

The company will still be ideological, but will simply follow Musk's ideology. Whether that's good or not depends on if you agree with him - I don't.

What goes around comes around. If Twitter wasn't so ideological to begin with then Musk may not have decided to meddle.

I personally would like companies to be less ideological in general.

EDIT: By less ideological I mean less interference on behalf of an ideology. Allowing all legally covered free speech would be the minimum interference possible by a company but not necessarily the maximally profitable position. Some interference may actually be a good thing - I think many companies have gone too far. My problem with companies being ideological is that they are signaling a willingness to interfere that invites substantial pressure from third parties to do so which can cut both ways.

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Post by lstamour »

iratewizard wrote: post #225
lstamour wrote: post #208

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> When I last checked, there were zero articles. Can I introduce you to Matt Levine? A very popular opinion columnist - you can get his column by email even without a subscription to Bloomberg, but he’s one of the reasons I subscribe. His take on this was emailed out midday yesterday and I enjoyed every minute: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-04-04/elon-m... You can find an archive of columns here: ht…

I personally find this style of writing pretentious, obnoxious and egotistical.

Yes, it can be. It can also be funny and informative, though. Check out the archives, a lot of topics build on past articles and not everything is a joke, sometimes there are clear and simple explanations of financial terms: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/authors/ARbTQlRLRjE/matthe...

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Post by jjulius »

slibhb wrote: post #234
jjulius wrote: post #217

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>If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure out why. So, I'm going to reply to your comment but really, this is relevant to most of this thread (and nearly every thread about him), because I'm just tired of these conversations. Yes, by many measures, he has been incredibly successful at both running businesses and amassing wealth. There are a lot of metrics that you could cite that support tha…

"On one hand you have the rockets, and cars, and all that. On the other hand you have his flippant, obnoxious attitude. Yeah, it's about even." So absurd that anyone takes that argument seriously.

The funny thing about life is that everyone places different levels of importance on things. You might think that innovation in EVs and space exploration far outweigh how someone treats other individuals, whereas others might place far greater importance in treating others with respect and equality over innovation in EVs and space exploration.

And you know what? That's OK. :)

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Post by johnla »

thepasswordis wrote: post #239
elicash wrote: post #13

He filed forms that he was going to be a passive investor, and the same day joined the board after discussion that had been in the works for weeks. This is strike two on misleading investors. I haven't seen analysis on whether it was illegal, but I wouldn't want somebody like him on my board even if it succeeded in keeping him from buying up more stock. With him on the outside, maybe he causes more trouble than on th…

>I wouldn't want somebody like him on my board You wouldn't want the CEO of two of the most innovative, most successful companies of all time on your board? Why?

because of personal biases and feelings

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Post by pmalynin »

iratewizard wrote: post #225
lstamour wrote: post #208

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> When I last checked, there were zero articles. Can I introduce you to Matt Levine? A very popular opinion columnist - you can get his column by email even without a subscription to Bloomberg, but he’s one of the reasons I subscribe. His take on this was emailed out midday yesterday and I enjoyed every minute: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-04-04/elon-m... You can find an archive of columns here: ht…

I personally find this style of writing pretentious, obnoxious and egotistical.

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Post by microtherion »

izzydata wrote: post #185
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I dont know about electric cars, but what Elon did with space x is simply incredible. Commercial space flights were becoming rarer and rarer out of the US, and now it is the most common. The price of space flight while still high, was reduced by a huge percentage. I’m sure he told many lies to get there. But economics and physics don’t really lie. I like him for the reasons I like Kanye, Bernie Sanders, and Trump (th…

What did Elon do exactly beyond take credit for the work of talented engineers?

Even if Musk were nothing but hype (and I think he deserves a bit more credit than that), that very hype appears to have been a decisive factor in solving the chicken-and-egg problem of electric car proliferation needing charger networks, and charger networks needing electric car proliferation.

So I would credit him with at least that accomplishment.

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