Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors • Hacker News Board

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by beepbooptheory » Tue, Apr 05, 2022, 4:10 PM UTC

jimnotgym wrote: post #160

slibhb wrote: post #150

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Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). But what Tesla has done is insane. It's happened so quickly, and that's leaving aside the rockets. The hard evidence that we can build new things, that we can progress and build a future that's better than the present is so important. If it takes a flawed man to show us that, I'll take it. If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure ou…

I may be seen as a villain to Ayn Rand disciples, mainly because I may point out I have seen people do amazing things without becoming billionaires at consumers expense.

The everyday work of the normal laborer is more worthy of admiration and support than anything that happens in a board room, on the golf course, or in whatever internal email chain that decides these things. It's not amazing to be an investor and make big decisions that shape lives and the flow of money, that is simply what you can do when you are in that position. The worker who can live within the turmoil the former creates, and still find love and happiness, not to mention keep the lights on and take out the trash, are the true heroes of humanity.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by hayd » Tue, Apr 05, 2022, 4:10 PM UTC

elicash wrote: post #13

He filed forms that he was going to be a passive investor, and the same day joined the board after discussion that had been in the works for weeks. This is strike two on misleading investors. I haven't seen analysis on whether it was illegal, but I wouldn't want somebody like him on my board even if it succeeded in keeping him from buying up more stock. With him on the outside, maybe he causes more trouble than on th…

SEC: S Elon's C.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by sanderjd » Tue, Apr 05, 2022, 4:11 PM UTC

next_xibalba wrote: post #91

elicash wrote: post #13

He filed forms that he was going to be a passive investor, and the same day joined the board after discussion that had been in the works for weeks. This is strike two on misleading investors. I haven't seen analysis on whether it was illegal, but I wouldn't want somebody like him on my board even if it succeeded in keeping him from buying up more stock. With him on the outside, maybe he causes more trouble than on th…

> He filed forms that he was going to be a passive investor This was almost certainly done by a lawyer working on his behalf. This strikes me as a technicality of paperwork that is being seized upon by the media as a way to portray Musk in the worst possible light. > I wouldn't want somebody like him on my board In this hypothetical, what is your role (i.e. fellow shareholder, CEO, employee)? I ask because shareholde…

Yeah this isn't how contracts work. You don't get to say "what do I know, it was prepared by an attorney".

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by jfoster » Tue, Apr 05, 2022, 4:12 PM UTC

asd88 wrote: post #141

Good for TWTR but not great for its employees given how Elon runs his companies.

Depends on the person, doesn't it? If I were at Twitter, I would be excited about this. I would be expecting the work to become more challenging, but also more important.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by scop » Tue, Apr 05, 2022, 4:12 PM UTC

I find this to be incredible news. I used to think Elon-hype was stupid, but both (a) his achievements and (b) his mind have gotten me to be an admirer.

Re (a) achievements, the man has basically bootstrapped space travel and electric vehicles. Seems like a big deal. Yes, I know it's more nuanced than that, but you get the point. Can you name someone else who broke through two fundamentally stalled/deadlocked industries on such scale? Now here he is putting his plow to the field of one of the most difficult problems of our age: information and social media.

Re (b) his mind, I have been very impressed by his interviews on podcasts as well as his willingness to go on various long-form podcasts. He seems to be somebody who is very eager to learn about a great variety of fields (history, software, hardware, physics). He also seems to take great care in extrapolating side-effects down a chain of events in order to think in a complex way of "what would happen if we do X". The world is not black & white and Elon seems to operate very comfortably in known & unknowns.

I don't agree with everything Elon says or does. But it's so bloody stupid that I have to even say that. What sort of bubble do you live in where you actually have various people who you fully agree with across all spectrums? Get out in the real world for goodness sake.

We need more Elon Musks.

Addendum:

(he also posts dank memes while on the pot, which is another plus)

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by abduhl » Tue, Apr 05, 2022, 4:12 PM UTC

fallingknife wrote: post #172

justapassenger wrote: post #120

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> This was almost certainly done by a lawyer working on his behalf. This strikes me as a technicality of paperwork that is being seized upon by the media as a way to portray Musk in the worst possible light. Elon openly attacks and disregards SEC. He doesn’t have any benefit of the doubt left, when it comes to activities that SEC is suppose to be regulating.

This is the USA. You are allowed to insult the government.

You’re allowed to insult the government. You’re not allowed to lie to the government when filing substantive documents.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by beeboop » Tue, Apr 05, 2022, 4:13 PM UTC

TameAntelope wrote: post #154

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Ah, the evergreen prediction of Twitter’s impending demise. The best part is that one say it will be true, and all of the folks who’ve been saying this for decades will get proven right. It’s the safest prediction in the world, to say something will end.

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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by arjun_krishna1 » Tue, Apr 05, 2022, 4:13 PM UTC

shmde wrote: post #155

memish wrote: post #133

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Who owns the media and big tech now??? It's not poor people! At least Elon Musk is a very rich person who believes in free speech. Which is good for us poors. Twitter and the national discourse will be objectively better for working class voices as a result. Less so for the gatekeepers and media elite commentariat.

> At least Elon Musk is a very rich person who believes in free speech. Yes thats exactly why he was willing to shell out 50,000$ to a kid to remove his flight tracking bot. Stop licking his boot.

Ummm... This is still up? https://twitter.com/ElonJet

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by rplnt » Tue, Apr 05, 2022, 4:13 PM UTC

memish wrote: post #133

jdrc wrote: post #95

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I sympathize but very rich people owning the media never ends well

Who owns the media and big tech now??? It's not poor people! At least Elon Musk is a very rich person who believes in free speech. Which is good for us poors. Twitter and the national discourse will be objectively better for working class voices as a result. Less so for the gatekeepers and media elite commentariat.

> At least Elon Musk is a very rich person who believes in free speech.

He believes in his free speech. Maybe. Definitely not when it comes to people who work for him or people that criticize him.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by scop » Tue, Apr 05, 2022, 4:13 PM UTC

mynameisvlad wrote: post #106

lbriner wrote: post #85

I have obviously missed something but what is the main objection to Musk being part of Twitter's board?

A decent chunk of people in the previous thread were saying he’s doing it to kill the bot that tracks his plane’s movements. In general, he seems to be an active enough user that there’s concerns he will use his new power as a way to shield himself from the consequences of his activity.

By "shield himself from the consequences of his activity" I think Elon literally meant "I don't want to get shot by some crazy person following my movements". No perfect solution, but I can get his motivation.