I’m not sure that sending local ad sales people who have no influence on the product, and depriving their family of their support is the ethical choice.
One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine
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Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine
#42The dream of the internet as some sort of great democratizing force is already dead and buried, but for any who still believes, this must surely be the final nail in that coffin. Controlling the narrative is only a problem for existing democracies with press freedom. All bets are off once the threat model includes control of the media. So cherish your freedom of speech, and exercise and defend it. I don’t know what t…
To me TikTok is not the "internet" because no matter how much the app gives, the user doesn't own their content. You can still write anything in a blog that you own and have people see it. To me that freedom is the "internet".
Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine
#43Are the Ukrainian videos actually unavailable in Russian TikTok if you search for them? It seems obvious that as you watch more non-war stuff (which might be the default based on the demographics) you'll see even less of them in the Russian account. And if you really can't see them even if you try (which the article doesn't even say as far as I saw) then isn't that the real news rather than the experiment that just shows how different demographics see different things on TikTok? What am I missing?
Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine
#44The dream of the internet as some sort of great democratizing force is already dead and buried, but for any who still believes, this must surely be the final nail in that coffin. Controlling the narrative is only a problem for existing democracies with press freedom. All bets are off once the threat model includes control of the media. So cherish your freedom of speech, and exercise and defend it. I don’t know what t…
Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine
#45>Russian Alexei sees a man tripping over in the water, a puppy patting a duckling on the head and some funny, homemade costumes.
Is it just me or does the first one sound like propaganda and the second one sound like normal TikTok?
Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine
#46Isn't tiktok's whole thing that it shows you very personally curated content based on data about you including demographics and most users see different content? Wouldn't users from Ukraine and England or ones from Mexico and America also see different videos? Are the Ukrainian videos actually unavailable in Russian TikTok if you search for them? It seems obvious that as you watch more non-war stuff (which might be t…
Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine
#47The dream of the internet as some sort of great democratizing force is already dead and buried, but for any who still believes, this must surely be the final nail in that coffin. Controlling the narrative is only a problem for existing democracies with press freedom. All bets are off once the threat model includes control of the media. So cherish your freedom of speech, and exercise and defend it. I don’t know what t…
Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine
#48I like the systematic approach they have used, and am a bit scared by the results. In one way, it is not that surprising that a social media app is so tightly controlled and used as a tool by the Russian government to hide unpleasant parts of reality. But I think it is a bit surprising that TikTok hasn't met more criticism and resistance on this
With that said - it would interesting so see what tik-tok looks like in China. Based on reports, Russian invasion is also heavily censored in China[0]
Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine
#49Isn't tiktok's whole thing that it shows you very personally curated content based on data about you including demographics and most users see different content? Wouldn't users from Ukraine and England or ones from Mexico and America also see different videos? Are the Ukrainian videos actually unavailable in Russian TikTok if you search for them? It seems obvious that as you watch more non-war stuff (which might be t…
"Via our Russian IP address, we try to search for some of the war videos that Ukrainian Nykolai has watched.
But they simply don’t appear. Someone doesn’t want us to see them.
Who?"
Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine
#50Very well executed project! Congratulations