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One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine

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Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine

#32

...uhm, isn't TikTok practically irrelevant in Russia now that they've stopped allowing users to post new content?! I mean, this is what ppl use it for, viewing new content from ppl like them and posting new content hoping to get "famous". With all respect for the author's work, this is not very relevant, since TikTok is in "zombie mode" now for Russia.

Unless you have a data on number of users, this is just speculation. One could also speculate that with other sources being turned off the young Russians would all turn to TikTok. This site [1] claims 54.9M active users in January.

[1] https://datareportal.com/essential-tiktok-stats

Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine

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post #24

The dream of the internet as some sort of great democratizing force is already dead and buried, but for any who still believes, this must surely be the final nail in that coffin. Controlling the narrative is only a problem for existing democracies with press freedom. All bets are off once the threat model includes control of the media. So cherish your freedom of speech, and exercise and defend it. I don’t know what t…

Internet is a bit larger than TikTok and some other social networks. Wikipedia, Internet Archive, even the Reddit for all its issues, are still living examples of great democratizing force.

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Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine

#35
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This article is well made and uncovers very interesting thing. I love how it was technically put together, browsing it on mobile was a great experience, chapeaux bas, i love how great new formats are available to publishers in the digital era outside of serving autoplaying ads. On thing that caught my attention was the supposed USCentric approach since it counted a distance in miles. I also wonder whether it was tran…

1 Scandinavian mile = 10 kilometers. Only used in Sweden and Norway by the way.

I thought you where joking, but you are not:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_mile

TIL.

Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine

#36
If governments are censoring our internet we need to change the way we're being geolocated. VPN is too much configuration and centralisation. TOR is over the top privacy. I want something as accessible as turning the flight mode on my mobile. The button can be placed next to flight mode and called CENSORSHIP. You can turn it on. It will then reveal your true IP address and make the internet very fast. However it's off by default. The internet is a bit slower. But your requests are being cleverly routed through random IPs that are not censored. These random IPs are provided by organisations but most importantly by peer users of the feature who happen to live in free countries. Sort of SETI@home but the goal is to increase intraterrestrial intelligence.

Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine

#37
I feel like the premis is flawed. Maybe I am a boomer but who would excpect TikTok to provied unbiased news content?

It is a chinese social media app.

Use established media for news.

And yes I know that is how people get content, I use Youtube and Twitch for political news and its just as bad.

But this is on another level.

Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine

#38
post #24

The dream of the internet as some sort of great democratizing force is already dead and buried, but for any who still believes, this must surely be the final nail in that coffin. Controlling the narrative is only a problem for existing democracies with press freedom. All bets are off once the threat model includes control of the media. So cherish your freedom of speech, and exercise and defend it. I don’t know what t…

The threat that you're modeling against is not a threat to the internet.

The internet is a group of technologies enabling near-realtime dissemination of information. It has no implicit promise of freedom of speech or press, democracy, or any other political ideal. Even the World Wide Web has no such implicit promise.

The great democratizing force to which you refer is the ability to publish content, and to an extent the content itself, and that still exists (modulo nationwide firewalls). Just get off other peoples' servers and start hosting it.

Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine

#39
This is very sad.

Obviously, it would be valuable if someone could suddenly change TikTok so that it thinks all Russians are Ukrainians.

Such information warfare is vastly less violent than missiles and probably much cheaper to implement. The sooner the Russian population knows what their leadership is really accomplishing, the better for the world.

Re: One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine

#40
post #25

I love the execution of this! Not comparing but I did a similar project 8 years ago at the peak of Israel / Palestine conflict to compare tweets from Palestine vs tweets from Israel. Incredible difference when you see them side by side. It would be great if someone would execute such an idea for more areas of conflict to bring awareness.

As someone for whom the conflict affect my childrens' wellbeing, and having good friends on both sides of the conflict, I would love if you would share your findings. If you prefer private conversation my Gmail username is the same as my HN username.

  > It would be great if someone would execute such an idea for more areas of conflict to bring awareness.
If you have any ideas, I can help code it or host it.
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