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Re: Tinygrad

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Post by alexnewman »

hwers wrote: post #14

I like this guy mostly for preserving a hacker-ish culture in the atmosphere and for just being a real human being in public. Too often do I feel like I'm just interacting with interfaces to corporations or people who self censor themselves so much they barely feel human. I'm not sure this library matters much to me but I maintain positive perspective on this guy for these reasons.

This library is so cool. It shows where the value is. Just like commaai . This is how we move forward. Cut to the core and share

Re: Tinygrad

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Post by nextlevelwizard »

jallen_dot_dev wrote: post #64
fortydegrees wrote: post #35

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Adding a comment as I don't think this is a fair representation of George. He livestreamed the creation of cheapETH as a technical demonstration of web3 development[0] and continually talks about it being worthless while developing it. He's also on record as being a serial 'no-coiner'. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LaIezgiUmw

> continually talks about it being worthless Kinda weird to try to sneak millions of a worthless coin into your wallet.

That is how you keep cheapETH cheap

Re: Tinygrad

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hwers wrote: post #14

I like this guy mostly for preserving a hacker-ish culture in the atmosphere and for just being a real human being in public. Too often do I feel like I'm just interacting with interfaces to corporations or people who self censor themselves so much they barely feel human. I'm not sure this library matters much to me but I maintain positive perspective on this guy for these reasons.

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Re: Tinygrad

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Post by mdp2021 »

paisawalla wrote: post #104
mdp2021 wrote: post #81

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("Tertium Non Datur" - that analyzed options are exhaustive)

Meaning this only neutrally, and completely respectfully: have you considered that you're a bit abnormal as well?

Yes, reflection is still part of the norm. Luckily... :)

Normal is what reflects the norm. That natural, observational norm (type, mode) and deontic, optimal norm ("as it should be") so typically ("normally") diverge, so the latter is found in the standard deviation, comes from the very point that was raised initially: growth («To experience, voluntarily, then grow, is the norm»), or the point where you are in it, proceeding towards the right extreme.

There is no escape from the norm (and its negative), you see: if good, then optimal norm, peripheral in the curve; if lacky, then observational norm in the centre. And between the two there is a sort of a continuity, thresholds aside...

That the "world" looks so abnormal, the bad way (hence you can call 'abnormal' the normal), is justified in such framework - especially when you look at it as a playground. And we just say, ok, if it were possible just to reduce the collateral damage...

Re: Tinygrad

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Post by imtemplain »

modeless wrote: post #32

I find this related page more interesting: A Breakdown of AI Chip Companies https://geohot.github.io/blog/jekyll/update/2021/06/13/a-bre... I especially like that he outlines an actual plan for an AI chip startup that he thinks will work, and has an update explaining why he was subsequently convinced that it wouldn't work.

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Re: Tinygrad

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Post by asicsp »

johnamata wrote: post #118
londons_explore wrote: post #55

> tinygrad will always be below 1000 lines. If it isn't, we will revert commits until tinygrad becomes smaller. I applaud this. Committing to keeping a project small and simple. So many projects start small and simple, and before long they've been extended in many different directions and now have thousands of options and things to understand before you can get started.

Are there other examples of famous projects that do that, limiting themselves to an X-amount of LOC? Last one I remember was TempleOS, although Terry went a bit over his limit (100k LOC).

https://github.com/aosabook/500lines

>Each chapter consists of a walkthrough of a program that solves a canonical problem in software engineering in at most 500 source lines of code. We hope that the material in this book will help readers understand the varied approaches that engineers take when solving problems in different domains, and will serve as a basis for projects that extend or modify the contributions here.

Re: Tinygrad

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Post by hwers »

ramblerman wrote: post #130
hwers wrote: post #14

I like this guy mostly for preserving a hacker-ish culture in the atmosphere and for just being a real human being in public. Too often do I feel like I'm just interacting with interfaces to corporations or people who self censor themselves so much they barely feel human. I'm not sure this library matters much to me but I maintain positive perspective on this guy for these reasons.

I wish Dang would just kill this sub-thread. What a mess. A whole amateur dissection of this guy's personality. It's so bloody awkward, just comment on the work and move on. But it's great to know HN readers are all such paragons of virtue.

Well you got your wish. Gonna be honest and say I’m not sure I’m enjoying HNs move to follow twitter and facebook to micromanage discussion to this degree. I really don’t think we were being uncivil in having a discussion about what we appreciate about this guy.

Re: Tinygrad

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Post by mcv »

girvo wrote: post #112
bko wrote: post #61

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I don't know. I ran the idea of purposely getting addicted to opioids to see if i can quit by my wife and she assured me i was crazy.

As someone who somewhat went down that path, the answer for me was "no, I can't quit on my own and man this 'experiment' has done some serious damage to my life" I'm doing better now! The buprenorphine injection has made my life so much better. Of course my trauma was one of the real driving forces behind that "experiment" and thought process. Really, my "lets find out what its like" was a rationalisation it seems.

I've heard that real serious addictions are never just about the drugs, but also about underlying issues. It makes sense that someone without those issues would have an easier time quitting.

Re: Tinygrad

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Post by mcv »

recuter wrote: post #74
bri3d wrote: post #65

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I respect geohotz' achievements (generally). I would never hold him up as an example of hacker culture, or his persona as one to emulate. There is a difference between these things.

Is hacker culture not filled with "weird jerks"? Linus doesn't qualify? Who does?

Linus used to be a massive jerk until he fixed his attitude. Hackers can grow.

I've got massive respect for everybody who addresses their own problems and fixes them. Way too many people only look for the problem in other people, but it's never that simple.

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