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25+ years of personal knowledge management

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Re: 25+ years of personal knowledge management

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> digital native Don't know what that is. But I do know that saving everything is just piling up problems for your children. My Dad died 7 years ago, and left behind an astounding amount of data and programs on CD, VHS, hard drives etc. My two brothers, who were his executors (I was not doing well mentally at the time), looked at each other and said: "Shall we go through all this?", "No". And it went on a bonfire - p…

Frenchie here. Digital natives is a word we were always taught is en-US. Fun to read that you doesn't know it as a international user. Typical french startup bullshit ? This depict children born in 80s, 90s and supposedly comfortable with computer work and data as they were born amongst them.

The term "digital natives" has been around for many years.

I don't know the official definition of the term, but I've always thought it was someone born in 1995 or later, where they never lived in a world without online services like AOL, and later Google, Facebook, etc.... Where they never lived in a world that existed before the World Wide Web. Where they never lived in a world without being able to access data online through something at least as fast as a 56k baud modem. Where they never lived in a world without cellphones and portable home phones.

They may not have had all these things themselves, but they knew people who did.

And this future is also unevenly distributed, of course.

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Frenchie here. Digital natives is a word we were always taught is en-US. Fun to read that you doesn't know it as a international user. Typical french startup bullshit ? This depict children born in 80s, 90s and supposedly comfortable with computer work and data as they were born amongst them.

I dunno. I'm a native Brit (birth and language), and I haven't come across it before now. But I'm not a Web maniac.

This is HN, a safe space. We are all web maniacs. That's how we got here. Sure there are a few suits hanging around with ironic hoodies and smart looking eyewear but mostly just us nerds. You are among friends here, let your phreak flag fly (it is -p or --phreak BTW)

Re: 25+ years of personal knowledge management

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I used to be just like the author in terms of data collection and curation.

A traumatic experience took it all away from me, and changed me in many ways. I now view everything as ephemeral, and treat it accordingly. Mostly what I do is just write about things using plain text files, with some markup that allows recall of information as needed. Instead of snapping a bunch of vacation photos, I'll just write about it. If someone sends a postcard or letter, I can quote them in my journal, but there is no need to keep a scan or verbatim copy of the communication. Of course, requirements change based on circumstance, but in general, the written word is a great way to store information. It takes up virtually no space. I don't foresee ever requiring more than a 64GB thumb drive to back up the entirety of my personal data.

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> digital native Don't know what that is. But I do know that saving everything is just piling up problems for your children. My Dad died 7 years ago, and left behind an astounding amount of data and programs on CD, VHS, hard drives etc. My two brothers, who were his executors (I was not doing well mentally at the time), looked at each other and said: "Shall we go through all this?", "No". And it went on a bonfire - p…

There is a solution between these extremes, which is:

Store all the data you want, but make a document stating clearly what is worth keeping after you pass on, and how to access it. Then just update the doc once a year.

IANAL, but this is standard advice a lawyer will give you when drafting a will/estate plan.

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> digital native Don't know what that is. But I do know that saving everything is just piling up problems for your children. My Dad died 7 years ago, and left behind an astounding amount of data and programs on CD, VHS, hard drives etc. My two brothers, who were his executors (I was not doing well mentally at the time), looked at each other and said: "Shall we go through all this?", "No". And it went on a bonfire - p…

Frenchie here. Digital natives is a word we were always taught is en-US. Fun to read that you doesn't know it as a international user. Typical french startup bullshit ? This depict children born in 80s, 90s and supposedly comfortable with computer work and data as they were born amongst them.

In Germany the term is used relatively often. At least in the circles I frequent.

Especially in the context of who the target audience is (in marketing, when thinking about UX and so on - the prototypical agency/consultants/client talk intermixed with a lot of BS and important sounding words).

So no idea if it is in general use here, though.

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Nice reflection over personal data management. I can relate to several moments. I agree specially with one thing: that a good file naming convention is essential and is perhaps the most fundamental piece of data management in conjunction with a wisely chosen folder structure. ISO8601 is perhaps the most important standard in this regard, but I often used the compressed version YYYYMMDD (instead of YYYY-MM-DD), followed by _ and whatever descriptor is suitable.

But as others have already written I have overtime become less and less keen to keeping a lot of stuff. My family knows where the important documents are (say, for valuable inheritable stuff). Digital photos live in an external hard drive. Other things worth keeping for posterity like books, articles, letters, notes etc that may have intellectual, historical or emotional value for others can be kept in a less than 32 Gb external drive.

The rest is just ephemeral dust or electrons ... as perhaps we all are after all :-)

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Frenchie here. Digital natives is a word we were always taught is en-US. Fun to read that you doesn't know it as a international user. Typical french startup bullshit ? This depict children born in 80s, 90s and supposedly comfortable with computer work and data as they were born amongst them.

As an en-US person, I can say confidently we do not use it in daily speech. I can intuit what it means, but I've never been taught it or been in a conversation where it was used in any way that stood out enough to create a memory.

It's pretty much a media thing here, too. I've never heard anyone use it in normal conversation.

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> digital native Don't know what that is. But I do know that saving everything is just piling up problems for your children. My Dad died 7 years ago, and left behind an astounding amount of data and programs on CD, VHS, hard drives etc. My two brothers, who were his executors (I was not doing well mentally at the time), looked at each other and said: "Shall we go through all this?", "No". And it went on a bonfire - p…

Frenchie here. Digital natives is a word we were always taught is en-US. Fun to read that you doesn't know it as a international user. Typical french startup bullshit ? This depict children born in 80s, 90s and supposedly comfortable with computer work and data as they were born amongst them.

It's also a fairly common term in Denmark ("digital indfødt").

Re: 25+ years of personal knowledge management

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I love this! I'm exactly like the author except a little less organized.

Some of my insights just to add to this: 1) I started curating existing collections to delete/cut down size. So I have a tv shows folder and I made a _cut folder and moved every show that I wasn't sure if I liked or if it was something I wanted to keep. This left the main folder with only my _absolute favorite_ shows.

2) I use sqlite for movie/tv/music/game/bookmarks databases and i try to combine data from different sources so like I combine imdb and boxofficemojo data in one sqlite db so that I know how many theaters every movie opened in and the rest of the info like actors/director/etc.

3) I make websites with lists and/or "collections" of the movies/things I like the most, and my personal stuff like code. That way I have to select and curate all of the items so that they are organized and accessible. Making a website is like publishing so can't publish drafts or half-finished stuff. Making a website for something really helps finishing the organization and collating all the disparate info.

4) Scraping info for all new movies/games/tv shows into the sqlite db's. Website for searching/browsing based on genre/whatever, and having the info locally (no third party).

5) Only publishing working code without any cruft to github. Makes it so I know every single commit in the commit history works and there is no need to organize everything since it was already organized and "fixed" when commiting. Also is essentially ALL code that I care to keep (I have a lot more "work in progress" code locally but that doesn't matter, only the published finished code matters), and of course local clone of all the repos.

6) I have a text file with all my command line one liners, tweaks and tricks for linux and/or website things but this is the one area where I am less organized. I don't externalize all the things I "know" as much, but I want to. I use my own memory for most things like that but would be nice to have a knowledge graph of some kind - looking into Obsidian.

Anyway great post.

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