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Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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So one of the things I like about Tiktok is you get exposed to something you normally wouldn't and it can be fascinating. One example of this I had an Air Force recruiter pop up on my fyp. This is obviously US-centric (as opposed to the article, which is the UK) but here are some things I've learned: 1. The difference between Reserve and Guard? Reserve is Federal, Guard is State (this was news to me); 2. Signing up f…

> I'm happy things like this exist to at least give people more options.

Risking getting killed and having to kill people to pay for your education and being happy about it is up there in the list of "only in America"

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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It's a pretty lame point. We're fine with spending on members of the military because, at any point, they may have to put their lives on the line for the rest of us. National defense isn't something you can prepare for after you need it. There are valid arguments to be made for society banding together and providing health care for everyone. "but the military gets it" isn't one of them.

Still though, government-provided medical insurance is accepted as a perk in this context, where as in other contexts, many Americans express extreme skepticism about the concept.

In this context, the government is the employer. Why are you treating it like a different one?

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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I spent five years in the Air Force. Posts like this are really helpful, a lot of Americans are disconnected from members of the military, especially in the upper classes where people do not need to serve, or in fields (like tech) where people can often find less intrusive ways to pay for college. My favorite part of the article is dispelling the myth that in the military senior people bark orders, and don't ask for…

>especially in the upper classes where people do not need to serve This is a often repeated myth. The upper class serves more per capita than the lower class.

Yeah, just not in any combat duty, except the rare ocassion. Combat is for the lower classes, preferably rural poor

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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If I knew my country's armed forces were 100% a domestic defense and emergency response force, I would absolutely have considered signing up when I was young. You learn good skills, and I see great value in some larger-than-self contribution to community there. My father is German and left Germany for good not long after doing his compulsory 1 year service. He hated it, and it was one of many factors that led to him…

See "War Is A Racket" by Major General Smedley Butler:

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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Every soldier has the choice whether to follow or disobey an order of dubious legal/moral consequence. If you are asked to kill babies, you sure as shit had better say "no". As a species, there is broad agreement that "just following orders" is not a defense for committing crimes against humanity.

> A lot of people talk about Mỹ Lai, and they say, 'Well, you know, yeah, but you can't follow an illegal order.' Trust me. There is no such thing. Not in the military. If I go into a combat situation and I tell them, 'No, I'm not going. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to follow that order', well, they'd put me up against the wall and shoot me. ~ Lawrence La Croix, a squad leader in Charlie Company in Mỹ Lai

Soldiers claim they arw willing to die as part of job. If one brags he is ok to go on super dangerous missions, he should be OK also to die in order to not commit attrocity

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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Before joining the military you should at least watch Winter Soldier [1] and Why We Fight [3]. Also, you should know that "Since 9/11, Military Suicides Are 4 Times Higher Than Deaths In War Operations" .[3] All things that military recruiters aren't keen to focus on. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzMeQGw4Bfs [2] - https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Fight-Gore-Vidal/dp/B088PVZHCV... [3] - https://www.npr.org/2021/…

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Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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Same thing here. My grandfather was excited when his dad found some pallets 'that fell off the back of a truck' so they could have a floor for the tent they lived in outside Portland, and not see the rats. (funny when people in PDX complain about the homeless problem, my grandpa was in those cities in the 30's and 40s) GI bill put him into college, and set him up with an eductation that setup my mom and her 6 sibling…

I knew a Soldier with a 32 ACT (yes, I double checked as that's a great score) from East St Louis. Guidance counselors and everything else failed them, so they joined the mil. How that kid (making an adult's decision by joining) wasn't scooped up by basically anyone other than their local recruiter blew my mind. If you spend some time around the military jobs that require smarts, these stories are very common. The no…

I was kind of like that. 30 ACT, barely graduated high school, joined the Marine Corps and chose infantry.

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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> At RubyConf 2014 someone in the lunch queue asked what I did before I was in tech and asked me if I enjoyed killing babies when I explained. To some extent your question is in the same category as the above. It decontextualizes the situation entirely. He lives in a democracy. He obviously believes that society is less worse than some visible alternatives. He therefore believes he can fight on its behalf based on wh…

> But his actions are morally considered whereas I think the question is morally thoughtless. I would disagree with this. Agreeing to fight an as-of-yet undefined enemy is abdicating any moral decisions based on who the enemy is, or how the war is fought. It is delegating personal moral decisions to the masses. > He therefore believes he can fight on its behalf based on what the democratic leadership determine. This…

"The soldier doesn't get to decide that it's immoral to carpet bomb El Salvador; they've already agreed to kill whoever their leadership tells them to."

People always have a choice. They can refuse.

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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False. The US spends a lot on public education. A lot of it is inefficient due to highly politicized unions and top-level admins that pilfer the money out from benefitting ground level teachers and students. https://www.manhattan-institute.org/issues-2020-us-public-sc... > 1. Thanks to decades of increases, America spends more per student than any other major developed nation. U.S. per-pupil expenditures have nearly…

People are talking about post-secondary education here. You are quoting primary and secondary. Your numbers do not apply.

"Step 1: cut public schooling"

False

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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If I knew my country's armed forces were 100% a domestic defense and emergency response force, I would absolutely have considered signing up when I was young. You learn good skills, and I see great value in some larger-than-self contribution to community there. My father is German and left Germany for good not long after doing his compulsory 1 year service. He hated it, and it was one of many factors that led to him…

Yeah. I’ve grown up starkly anti military due to the kinds of fights the American military has fought in my lifetime. It’s been evil. Plain and simple. And yet, I’m glad we have a strong military given happenings in Ukraine. I would strongly support putting boots on the ground.

To have the training necessary to join the volunteer defense forces in Ukraine or something similar resonates as a valuable, important skill.

Hard to mix such feelings.

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