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Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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You're exactly the kind of tech person he felt like needing to explain this to.

I don't see what 'tech person' has to do with it. Personal opinions on the military are pretty basic ethical decisions.

Because you start out from the standard tech person position of arrogance. You didn't try to argue why you think his decision was ethically wrong. You went for a smug soundbite that sounds glib and clever.

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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>> I originally joined the British Army full-time after finishing my masters in computer science at Bristol in 2007. At the time, the campaign in Afghanistan was in full-swing, and the campaign in Iraq was still running. All my peers were going into office jobs in London but I still wanted more fresh air at that point in my life. I just cannot understand this mindset. "I wanted to see the world so instead of taking a…

I think that's a pretty disengenous take on the author's thought process. If you read the entire article it's clear that he believes in the concept of defending his country and trusting his leaders to correctly decide how that defense is carried out. If that decision is to send him to the middle east then so be it. It very clearly is not about him wanting to "do a bit of invading." Maybe you think the middle east inv…

>> But you should blame the correct actor for that call, and it certainly is not the individual soldier.

He joined while that war was ongoing (2007). I think it's perfectly fair to judge him in that case when the choice to take part was 100% his.

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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It is basically a big technical, isn't it? It appears to be the replacement for the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snatch_Land_Rover , which got its name from the use by military units grabbing civilians off the street in Northern Ireland.

Yeah, but I don't get the concept at all... why use this kind of vehicle, why develop it at all? What is the benefit of having the crew so exposed and how is it a good idea at all?

> Our Jackal vehicles are lightly armoured so that we can see more and use our weapons more freely.

Armour is a trade-off. More armour means less manoeuvrability and less ability to fight. You could completely encase yourself in a foot of steel if you wanted and just sit there on the battlefield, but you wouldn't be able to achieve anything.

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Things don't get better if you don't complain. All of my siblings have come back from military service (marines, army rangers, navy) worse off, and the benefits in no way compensate them for what they lost. I recommend it to no one. The best military service is the service you did not perform. The VA is notorious for being terrible. The US has non profits for wounded/disabled veterans because care and support (most i…

What are the services people should be entitled to and who should pay for it? I am just curious how this works.

We already pay for most of those services, it's just that right now, we often get to pay twice for them, in both the upfront dollar cost, and all the non-dollar suffering that untreated medical issues, chronic homelessness, and generational crime cause.

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it's absolutely welfare. Just because you're working doesn't make it not a socialist policy for the benefit of those who join. You can have a jobs program that pays the civilians to dig the holes and the military to burn shit in them and fill them - just because they all now have jobs doesn't make it not welfare, and you've got 100% employment rate.

In a sense federal jobs is socialistic I suppose, which is why you should want limited government. But you do need a military force in the country, and you should give people benefits for their sacrifice. It's not genuine to say military service is a welfare program, it's more of a jobs program.

> In a sense federal jobs is socialistic I suppose, which is why you should want limited government.

Before one spends a trillion that could be going to the welfare of the citizens themselves, yeah probably.

>But you do need a military force in the country

Obviously, not sure why this is said here.

>It's not genuine to say military service is a welfare program, it's more of a jobs program.

It's not genuine to say it's a jobs program either - my healthcare money is being strapped to rockets and shipped across the ocean. Are those rockets filing taxes?

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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The author is... very nonchalant about the ethical aspect of his calling. From the sanitized language (the "destroys the enemy through mounted close combat" euphemism kind of glosses over the killing part of said combat), to the almost smug dismissal of pacifists, I'm seeing a lot of rhetoric being put into deflecting the criticisms of the military without actually addressing them. Like... the author mentions the Pet…

I'm not addressing the rest of your post, but pacifism is absurd and pacifists should be dismissed. Pacifism allows those who are not pacifist to impose their will on others.

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

#107

>> I originally joined the British Army full-time after finishing my masters in computer science at Bristol in 2007. At the time, the campaign in Afghanistan was in full-swing, and the campaign in Iraq was still running. All my peers were going into office jobs in London but I still wanted more fresh air at that point in my life. I just cannot understand this mindset. "I wanted to see the world so instead of taking a…

> a bit of invading.

The world doesn't work the way you wish it did. Atrocities are prevented and security is maintained through action and credible deterrence. This requires men and women willing or conscripted into service. Would be great if none of this were necessary, but it's simply not how the world works and there is ample historical evidence of what happens when a country lowers its guard. As I type this Germany is coming to grips with its own wishful thinking regarding Russia and its energy and food supplies.

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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My son was Army Reserve (US), did a tour in Iraq back in the day. He reported that Reservists didn't get the respect of regular Army, at least in his unit. They got shot at, shot back, did convoy duty, got blown up (twice). But somehow not 'real soldiers'. His unit got no commendations or promotions from the regular army base commander. He returned, still had enlistment period left, went straight to the Army Recruiti…

The treatment of reservists, in OIF specifically, across the board -- from active duty service members all the way up the chain to top military leadership and the GWB admin -- was disgraceful. I saw a little bit of it first hand when I was enlisted. FWIW, they're all real soldiers in my eyes.

The odd part of that is that many of the reservists were active duty, including combat veterans, and then moved into reserves. So it's not like they haven't seen stuff.

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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> I spend about a hundred days a year of my spare-time in evenings, weekends, and holidays, training my Squadron. From an American perspective, as someone who was in our Army Reserve, that's an insane amount of time if you aren't a full time AGR. I guess he like's his big time Major pay and status, but if you're really dedicated to being a part time soldier, the higher you rise in rank the more you'll be expected to…

> I guess he like's his big time Major pay I doubt pay is a factor for the author at all. A quick look ( https://apply.army.mod.uk/what-we-offer/army-reserve/army-re... ) reveals Majors in the reserves make £135/day, which is frankly nothing compared to what the author would earn in his job at Shopify.

Well presumably he gets paid at the normal active duty rate when he’s called up, or whatever the UK equivalent is.

Re: Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends in tech

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The author glosses over my biggest question "Who might you have to fight?" with a informative "Queen’s enemies." Might his squadron be called in to quash civil disturbance? Sent to the next Iraq? Is it reserved for defending the UK from invasion?

> "Queen’s enemies."

I can't believe people still fight for royalty. Ants fight their queen's enemies. Free human being should fight for themselves, their families, etc.

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