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Putting aside the need for investigation I fail to understand how it "wouldn't be Russia in any way."
Perhaps you won't be failing to understand if you read it once again - the part "wouldn't be Russia in any way" refers to benefitting from crimes. I never said Russia actually commit or didn't commit those crimes, it's simply not enough evidence to say for sure.
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Even if this turns out not to be the true chain of events, at least this is an attempt to get at the facts rather than venting. I read HN to find comments that try to make a concrete contribution to our knowledge. So, please folks, more.
Comments like that, even though he's just asking legitimate questions, are often downvoted into oblivion very quickly. Given the amount of lies circulated by Ukraine's and Russian authorities, I'm always wary of accepting anything I read at face value. Also, Ukraine has an abysmal track record when it comes to investigations (see those into the Maidan sniper killings and the Odessa massacre), so again, I don't see ho…
3-31 NYT posts story about UA fears of saboteurs (pro-Russian Ukrainian civilians). 4-2 UA news publishes story of UA forces going into #Bucha to clear it of "saboteurs & accomplices". Now photos/vids show many of the dead with RU food bags & white RU armbands. UA looking guilty.
https://twitter.com/morphonios/status/1510943831109287940?s=...
This thread is full of comments from accounts created within the last month whose only contributions are [flagged] allegations of Ukraine being a Neo-Nazi state. There are multiple independent reports of the Russian army committing war crimes: https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/03/ukraine-apparent-war-cri...
Ukraine’s Got a Real Problem with Far-Right Violence https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-s...
Responses are simple. 1) How's that relevant at all right now? 2) ...in areas that were under Russian occupation for weeks and only recently liberated, okay. Also, why stage atrocities when Russia isn't even hiding the fact that it's committing constant atrocities? 3) Unconvincing and unverified. Nazis are everywhere. Russia has an FSB commander with the SS bars tatted on his neck and their whole playbook in this war is Fascism 101. Ukraine's 6 biggest uber-far-right factions came together in the last election and got a whopping <2% of the vote. Whoop-de-f*#king doo. Tell that to folks with active KKK movements in their states.
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These are Ukrainians found tortured, mutilated, raped and killed, not Russians. There is plenty of evidence in the linked article. Please don't do this here.
Though the early information states that there were bodies of "hundreds of Russian soldiers", found when the Ukrainian forces eventually arrived to the area.
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Funny how you say “we need independent investigation” to anyone who says it was Russia but here you are saying you don’t blame Ukrainians for staging it
Also funny that your account was opened after the war started
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Even if this turns out not to be the true chain of events, at least this is an attempt to get at the facts rather than venting. I read HN to find comments that try to make a concrete contribution to our knowledge. So, please folks, more.
Comments like that, even though he's just asking legitimate questions, are often downvoted into oblivion very quickly. Given the amount of lies circulated by Ukraine's and Russian authorities, I'm always wary of accepting anything I read at face value. Also, Ukraine has an abysmal track record when it comes to investigations (see those into the Maidan sniper killings and the Odessa massacre), so again, I don't see ho…
This thread is full of comments from accounts created within the last month whose only contributions are [flagged] allegations of Ukraine being a Neo-Nazi state. There are multiple independent reports of the Russian army committing war crimes: https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/03/ukraine-apparent-war-cri...