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Re: Employees are returning to the office to sit on zoom calls

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This is the most frustrating part of being forced back to the Bay Area. Even before the pandemic, we always had distributed meetings, with people calling in from various buildings, conference rooms, phone booths, etc. So nothing changes between last month and this month, except that managers get peace-of-mind knowing I’m calling in from somewhere on the premises, and I’m back living in a place where I can’t afford a…

I had plenty of interactions at Google over lunch, in the hallway, while taking a break, etc that we brought to a whiteboard and either ended up with a potentially interesting project or saved us time by finding out something didn’t make sense. These often came from a series of multiple, low stakes conversations that were much more difficult to have remotely. I don’t contend they are impossible, but for me they were…

I also had those by just doing my work and talking with colleagues about work. At home.

People love (my company included) to say office promotes those low-stake spontaneous conversations that result in something positive. Because these spontaneous conversations don't happen remotely, the argument is that then that something positive wouldn't have happened either. That's a false argument though.

Besides, if a company has responsible employees they will think about work, about their tasks. These types of brainstorming and thinking would come up anyway. And if not exactly this specific brainstorm that came from a lunch-topic, another one.

At the end of the day, right now most arguments are emotional arguments to force people into the office. Those findings that something didn't make sense, would happen anyway if people just think about work and do their job, in the comfort of their home, in the Bahamas, or wherever they choose to work.

Re: Employees are returning to the office to sit on zoom calls

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This is the fundamental problem with hybrid. It's the worst of both worlds, as it forces a regression to the most-accessible, which will always be video calls.

I think a lot of the forced-hybrid environments are a result of companies waiting for their commercial leases to die.

Re: Employees are returning to the office to sit on zoom calls

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This is the fundamental problem with hybrid. It's the worst of both worlds, as it forces a regression to the most-accessible, which will always be video calls.

I think a lot of the forced-hybrid environments are a result of companies waiting for their commercial leases to die.

That said, I remember sitting on a lot of conference calls in the office pre-pandemmy, so... isn't video better?

Re: Employees are returning to the office to sit on zoom calls

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No offense, but your comment reads like it came from a script. Thing happened -> unexpected result -> wonder why -> learn more about yourself. And the moral of the story is that working in the office is not that bad, because we're human beings not... robots? Surely you're not so surprised to get these responses :)

I actually am surprised to get these responses, and I’ve sent a request to the mods to remove my account as I’m weirded out by what HN has become.

I'm with you on this.

I had the temerity to suggest there are benefits to face-to-face collaboration, and that meeting with colleagues was a valid reason for asking them to be on site in the office -- and I got raked over the coals as a butts-in-seats management lackey.

https://ez.substack.com/p/the-work-from-home-future-is-destr...

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