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There are multiple independent reports of the Russian army committing war crimes: https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/03/ukraine-apparent-war-cri...
This thread is full of comments from accounts created within the last month whose only contributions are [flagged] allegations of Ukraine being a Neo-Nazi state. There are multiple independent reports of the Russian army committing war crimes: https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/03/ukraine-apparent-war-cri...
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These are Ukrainians found tortured, mutilated, raped and killed, not Russians. There is plenty of evidence in the linked article. Please don't do this here.
> Please don't do this here. What makes you think you can give advices on what people should or shouldn't do here? If you don't need proper investigation to figure out who actually did that - it's your choice. But don't try to censor those who think not like you.
Proper investigations will be done and Russia will be brought to justice in front of a court of its peers. Defending this monstrous state with your "concerned" deflections while mothers and children lay raped and dead on the earth of Ukraine is not defensible. Please don't do this here.
> Professor Michael Clarke, a defence and security expert and a specialist adviser to the House of Commons Defence Committee, has said that the images coming out of Ukraine are clear evidence of war crimes. He told Sky News: "The deliberate targeting of civilians is a war crime in and of itself, every day of the week. So unless somebody can provide a military logic why civilians are targeted, that is a straight war c…
For anyone interested in what Michael Clarke actually said rather than this misrepresentation, it was interesting, video -
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These are Ukrainians found tortured, mutilated, raped and killed, not Russians. There is plenty of evidence in the linked article. Please don't do this here.
Though the early information states that there were bodies of "hundreds of Russian soldiers", found when the Ukrainian forces eventually arrived to the area.
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Even if this turns out not to be the true chain of events, at least this is an attempt to get at the facts rather than venting. I read HN to find comments that try to make a concrete contribution to our knowledge. So, please folks, more.
Given the amount of lies circulated by Ukraine's and Russian authorities, I'm always wary of accepting anything I read at face value.
Also, Ukraine has an abysmal track record when it comes to investigations (see those into the Maidan sniper killings and the Odessa massacre), so again, I don't see how you can immediately buy into this shit without the least amount of doubt. It seems most people do though and it makes me really sad.
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You attribute too much intellect to the grunt on the ground. Nobody thinks like that after fighting in the war, they might die tomorrow. Who else might have "done it"? Ukrainians themselves? What a very bad joke.
A truly independent investigation is what is needed. And the U.S. hypocrisy statements is not helping Ukraine's case one bit, like Anthony Blinken promising to hold perpetrators accountable. How about cleaning your own house first? Again, an independent investigation is what we must ask for.
But why specifically in Bucha? Is this about Russians being obliged to retreat, and committing atrocities on the way out? Or is this going on in other places Russians still hold, and we only found it about it in Bucha, specifically, because they are out? Can we expect similar revelations in each place they are forced out of?
The world isn't ready to understand what has happened in Mariupol. Like the other commenter said, it will be uncovered once Russian forces retreat, and is ten times the destruction.