Bucha Massacre
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Bucha Massacre
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#2a call for an independent investigation of what happened in Bucha by UN:
https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/04/1115442
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#3But why specifically in Bucha? Is this about Russians being obliged to retreat, and committing atrocities on the way out? Or is this going on in other places Russians still hold, and we only found it about it in Bucha, specifically, because they are out? Can we expect similar revelations in each place they are forced out of?
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#4This should be investigated by the ICC...along with all of the war crimes the U.S. got away with in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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#5But why specifically in Bucha? Is this about Russians being obliged to retreat, and committing atrocities on the way out? Or is this going on in other places Russians still hold, and we only found it about it in Bucha, specifically, because they are out? Can we expect similar revelations in each place they are forced out of?
The Bucha was taken by the Russians and, as they are retreating to theirs border right now, the Bucha is now again in Ukraine hands and now it became possible to document the atrocities.
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#6But why specifically in Bucha? Is this about Russians being obliged to retreat, and committing atrocities on the way out? Or is this going on in other places Russians still hold, and we only found it about it in Bucha, specifically, because they are out? Can we expect similar revelations in each place they are forced out of?
The world isn't ready to understand what has happened in Mariupol. Like the other commenter said, it will be uncovered once Russian forces retreat, and is ten times the destruction.
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#7> Professor Michael Clarke, a defence and security expert and a specialist adviser to the House of Commons Defence Committee, has said that the images coming out of Ukraine are clear evidence of war crimes. He told Sky News:
"The deliberate targeting of civilians is a war crime in and of itself, every day of the week. So unless somebody can provide a military logic why civilians are targeted, that is a straight war crime. Civilians who appear to have had their hands tied behind their back and were shot. There’s no strategic rationale for that whatsoever."
As to the response from Russia to the accusations, Clarke said:
"They always deny it. The Russia deny everything like this. They go through three phases. First of all, they deny everything. And then they try to obfuscate, they create stuff on social media, which indicates 'Oh it’s all very complicated and this was going on at the time, and that was going on, and no simple answers are possible'.
And then a couple of years later, they often admit it and they say yes, yes, we did do this or we did do that, but you do the same. And they point to some sort of moral equivalence in the West.
They did it over the poisoning of Litvinenko in 2006 and Skripal in 2018. They did it over the bringing down of the civilian airliner over Ukraine. They always deny it. They always do. And nobody believes them. That’s the point."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/apr/04/russia-uk...
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#8No post body was provided.
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You attribute too much intellect to the grunt on the ground.
Nobody thinks like that after fighting in the war, they might die tomorrow. Who else might have "done it"? Ukrainians themselves? What a very bad joke.
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These are Ukrainians found tortured, mutilated, raped and killed, not Russians. There is plenty of evidence in the linked article. Please don't do this here.