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Re: Overtone

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Post by erikschoster » Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 3:10 AM UTC

dplakon wrote: post #39

Max/MSP is this times a million. check it out if you haven't heard of it. cycling74.com it does the exact same things but with more options, complexity, and a more usable interface. It also has visual fx.

Signal flow approaches like Max/MSP and PureData are awesome and have their own strengths and weaknesses - but certainly they have no more or less 'options' or capacity for complexity than any similarly mature text-based DSP system like SuperCollider or ChucK.

Re: Overtone

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Post by swannodette » Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 3:15 AM UTC

dplakon wrote: post #39

Max/MSP is this times a million. check it out if you haven't heard of it. cycling74.com it does the exact same things but with more options, complexity, and a more usable interface. It also has visual fx.

Max/MSP and Clojure are not either/or http://www.cassiel.com/2011/08/01/clojure-in-maxmsp/

Re: Overtone

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Post by moultano » Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 3:23 AM UTC

If you like this, check out nyquist. Lisp for audio programming: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~music/nyquist/

Re: Overtone

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Post by swannodette » Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 3:39 AM UTC

moultano wrote: post #43

If you like this, check out nyquist. Lisp for audio programming: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~music/nyquist/

But that's not "realtime" like SuperCollider right?

Re: Overtone

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Post by rescripting » Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 3:41 AM UTC

eegilbert wrote: post #10

This is great. Thank you. If you're interested in this stuff, also take a look at ChucK, a project out of Princeton's CS & Music departments. I've been extremely happy with its results when generating backgrounds for videos, for instance. http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu

From what I can tell ChucK is no longer supported and has stopped working in OSX Lion.

Re: Overtone

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Post by jamesbkel » Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 3:59 AM UTC

eegilbert wrote: post #10

This is great. Thank you. If you're interested in this stuff, also take a look at ChucK, a project out of Princeton's CS & Music departments. I've been extremely happy with its results when generating backgrounds for videos, for instance. http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu

Do you have any audio examples? The only examples I could see were actual code. (I'm on my phone so I'll double-check later in case I missed an obvious link on the ChucK site).

Re: Overtone

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Post by palish » Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 3:59 AM UTC

kragen wrote: post #34

DonnyV wrote: post #27

I'm not really sure what you would use this for. I'm a musician and I can't possibly find any use for this. It would take forever to write a song in this and then you would have to mess with the timings just to make it not sound like a programmed piece of music and give it some feel.

> I'm not really sure what you would use this for. "Live coding" means you go to a nightclub, hook your laptop up to the sound system and a big projector, and start programming, while everybody is watching you program and listening to the sounds your program is making.

Almost like... a synth.

Re: Overtone

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Post by ehsanu1 » Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 4:06 AM UTC

Thia isn't overtone, but here's some very impressive livecoding in scheme/impromptu (http://impromptu.moso.com.au/), building up to a wonderful piano improvisation which has a very natural feel: http://vimeo.com/2433947

Re: Overtone

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Post by jamesbkel » Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 4:08 AM UTC

sneak wrote: post #12

Raphael wrote: post #9

Interesting how his command line glows and shows CRT-like distortions. Is that actually how it looks, or is that post-processing applied to the video?

If on OSX, you may be interested in this: http://www.secretgeometry.com/apps/cathode/

Not sure if I would really use it aside from a novelty, but I may need to buy this simply to support such a great/fun idea.

Re: Overtone

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Post by troyal7562 » Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 4:47 AM UTC

DonnyV wrote: post #27

I'm not really sure what you would use this for. I'm a musician and I can't possibly find any use for this. It would take forever to write a song in this and then you would have to mess with the timings just to make it not sound like a programmed piece of music and give it some feel.

I am a musician but I can see how this is useful given much practice and a creative, well practiced ear. One can, and people have, make music out of much less inspiring media. I agree that the piano and sine sounds utilized leave much to be desired. I can, rather, see this driving well crafted, masses of sound that can be later arranged by in logic or protools. You don't have to sound like a machine ( though you are certainly free to, and there is nothing wrong with it.) It might require hacking, but that is usually required for anything new, music included.