Steve Jobs: “Technology Alone Is Not Enough” • Hacker News Board

Re: Steve Jobs: “Technology Alone Is Not Enough”

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Post by alanfalcon » Sat, Oct 08, 2011, 7:19 PM UTC

joezydeco wrote: post #7

It's curious that everyone praises Jobs for his hand in the design of the Pixar campus (rightly deserved), so why is the design of the new Apple mothership almost a complete opposite to this idea?

"As he saw it, the main challenge for Pixar was getting its different cultures to work together, forcing the computer geeks and cartoonists to collaborate."

It's entirely likely that Steve sees a different set of challenges for Apple, and to the extent he had design input into the new Apple campus he made considerations based on those challenges.

Re: Steve Jobs: “Technology Alone Is Not Enough”

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Oct 08, 2011, 7:50 PM UTC

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Re: Steve Jobs: “Technology Alone Is Not Enough”

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Post by qxb » Sat, Oct 08, 2011, 8:36 PM UTC

mdariani wrote: post #3

rodolphoarruda wrote: post #2

...a message to HP.

and to samsung ;)

I found this Economist piece on Samsung's strategy of "swapping infotainment for lifecare" really interesting: http://www.economist.com/node/21530976

Re: Steve Jobs: “Technology Alone Is Not Enough”

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Post by nostromo » Sat, Oct 08, 2011, 8:48 PM UTC

joezydeco wrote: post #7

It's curious that everyone praises Jobs for his hand in the design of the Pixar campus (rightly deserved), so why is the design of the new Apple mothership almost a complete opposite to this idea?

Can you explain why the new Apple campus is the opposite of Pixar's? I see mostly similarities: A central courtyard open to everyone in the center, no corner offices, a shared cafeteria for all types of employees.

In fact, quite often the shared atrium will be the fastest way from point A to point B, which will lead to many chance encounters across teams.

Re: Steve Jobs: “Technology Alone Is Not Enough”

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Post by joezydeco » Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 3:12 PM UTC

nostromo wrote: post #14

joezydeco wrote: post #7

It's curious that everyone praises Jobs for his hand in the design of the Pixar campus (rightly deserved), so why is the design of the new Apple mothership almost a complete opposite to this idea?

Can you explain why the new Apple campus is the opposite of Pixar's? I see mostly similarities: A central courtyard open to everyone in the center, no corner offices, a shared cafeteria for all types of employees. In fact, quite often the shared atrium will be the fastest way from point A to point B, which will lead to many chance encounters across teams.

I don't see a central, outdoor courtyard to be the same as a central, enclosed atrium housing bathrooms, mailboxes, and food.

Re: Steve Jobs: “Technology Alone Is Not Enough”

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Post by 6ren » Mon, Oct 10, 2011, 4:22 PM UTC

sjs wrote: post #8

6ren wrote: post #4

> average international gross of more than $550 million per film . Not even Apple has enjoyed that kind of streak. Apple grossed $65.23 billion last year alone.

I think the streak refers to the number of consecutively successful films and not the dollar amount. Apple has released many successful iPods, iPads, Macs, and other products but there have been relative flops such as the Apple TV and the iPod Hi-Fi.

Thanks, I now think he was making both points (see emphasis on "per year"), the dollar one obscuring the streak one for me.

BTW: to be fair, Apple TV hasn't flopped yet (a media center aot a desktop computer still seems like a good idea... though the iPhone/iPad or something could yet displace it). It has low uptake but passionate users... like the first iPod. The iPod Hi-Fi flopped.

Re: Steve Jobs: “Technology Alone Is Not Enough”

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Post by sjs » Mon, Oct 10, 2011, 8:27 PM UTC

6ren wrote: post #16

sjs wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the streak refers to the number of consecutively successful films and not the dollar amount. Apple has released many successful iPods, iPads, Macs, and other products but there have been relative flops such as the Apple TV and the iPod Hi-Fi.

Thanks, I now think he was making both points (see emphasis on "per year"), the dollar one obscuring the streak one for me. BTW: to be fair, Apple TV hasn't flopped yet (a media center aot a desktop computer still seems like a good idea... though the iPhone/iPad or something could yet displace it). It has low uptake but passionate users... like the first iPod. The iPod Hi-Fi flopped.

Good points, he did emphasize $/year and I still plan on buying an Apple TV (once I have a TV) so perhaps there is hope for it yet. I'd like it to succeed.

Anecdotally my sister's husband bought one and also got his brother one last Christmas. Whether they use them or not is another question I'll have to ask next time I see them.