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A few things to know before stealing my 914

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Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914

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Great article! Makes me wonder if in 40 years people will write about how to (not) get an old Tesla Roadster or BMW i3 going again? Although, rather than pumping the acceleration 4 times to get enough gas into the engine so it will start, that will probably begin with hacking the car's system so it allows you to start it...

I've been saying for a while now, there will be no more 'classic cars' starting after the mid-1990's because of the failure of electronic parts that will not be able to be replaced. The best that will happen is people using the shells to 'restomod' them into new cars that look old. Even today, it's much easier for a beginner to buy a broken 1970's car and get it running than a broken 1990's car.

You underestimate the enthusiasts. I just recently bought a refurbished “distance system” computer (aka cruise control ecu) for my 89 325i. I have, on order, an original head unit with blue tooth retrofitted.

Electronics won’t be the Achilles heel of old cars. Gasoline will be. But make no mistake. Old electric vehicles with their max 10-year life span of battery banks won’t enjoy the life of a classic either.

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914

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My father had one of these just sort of gathering dust in the garage when I was growing up, utterly shocked when I turned 16 and he handed me the keys. I still like to casually drop "oh yeah, I used to have a Porsche back when I was 16." Although I must say it was in immeasurably better shape than this one :D I still dream of finding an old 914 and giving it an electric conversion… I'd have to do something about that…

It's really a weird Volkswagen/Porsche frankenstein, despite what the badge says. Porsche designed it, Volkswagen built it. Outside the US, the Volkswagon version is 914/4, and the Porsche version being a 914/6. (The last digit references the number of cylinders). In the US market both versions were branded as Porsche because US buyers were deemed unable to understand that two different car brands used the same body…

back when I was a teenager, I read a few bits that referred to it as a “VoPo”

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914

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It's really a weird Volkswagen/Porsche frankenstein, despite what the badge says. Porsche designed it, Volkswagen built it. Outside the US, the Volkswagon version is 914/4, and the Porsche version being a 914/6. (The last digit references the number of cylinders). In the US market both versions were branded as Porsche because US buyers were deemed unable to understand that two different car brands used the same body…

back when I was a teenager, I read a few bits that referred to it as a “VoPo”

I remember it being referred to as Volksporsche. It was a strange mix of feelings. Nobody took it as a serious Porsche while owners that normally wouldn't be able to afford a 'real' one really loved the car for it quirks. To me this is a much better Volksporsche than the Cayenne/Touareg . And in hindsight the people who loved this democratized version of a sports car have a better place in history than all those who started the SUV boom in Europe's cities. While Porsche was made a bit fun of at the time, today's Porsches feel like an anachronistic thing that nobody desires but super rich and wannabes.

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> this shift pattern is just standard on German cars with manual transmission "Standard?" Hmm. We have two cars with manual transmission, a VW Sharan and a VW Up: The Sharan has R at the top left, then (reading across) 1 3 5 with 2 4 6 below; so 6th is at the bottom right. The Up only has 5 forward gears, but for some reason they decided to put R at the bottom right (so down from 5th... you can probably see where thi…

but for some reason they decided to put R at the bottom right Reverse in the bottom right is the “normal” 5-speed reverse spot no?

> Reverse in the bottom right is the “normal” 5-speed reverse spot no?

I've driven a lot of 5-speed manual transmission rental cars over the decades, and my impression is that reverse in the top left is (or certainly was) the far more common layout:

  R 1 3 5
    2 4
Our previous car, also a VW, had this layout too.

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914

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You will also need a Raspberry Pi 19 and a GSM transmit module to impersonate the old-timey cell towers they used to use. You can purchase one for about $3 or so and run this script...

After you have hand built a new battery that fits it, built a LCD shim to connect to whatever the latest standard is, etc. Older cars are simpler, both in total, as in the requirements to retrofit replacement parts. Your average machine shop/etc will be able to keep that 914 running for the next hundred years. And when they stop selling gas, you can convert it to run on everclear.

Well, with the battery breakthrough of 2034 old Tesla's will run on two double-A's for 1000 miles.

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914

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So, apparently there is no mandatory vehicle inspection in the US. Of course there isn't, it would violate the freedom to drive with an unroadworthy car.

Yes there is, it varies by state. Author is in NC, same as me. There is a state-wide safety inspection but vehicles older than 30 years are exempt: https://www.ncdot.gov/dmv/title-registration/emissions-safet... There's also an emissions inspection that varies by county, but vehicles older than 20 years are exempt. https://www.ncdot.gov/dmv/title-registration/emissions-safet... Does it make any sense to exempt older…

> Author is in NC, same as me

This hardly matters though because you don't need to register the vehicle in the state you're living in.

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914

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What a blast from the past. I learnt to drive using a VW Golf, and I've always thought this shift pattern is just standard on German cars with manual transmission (at least in the 90s). One thing I don't see mentioned is that you first have to press down onto the knob, then shift forward, in order to shift the transmission into R. Simply pushing the knob forward won't go from N to R.

> this shift pattern is just standard on German cars with manual transmission "Standard?" Hmm. We have two cars with manual transmission, a VW Sharan and a VW Up: The Sharan has R at the top left, then (reading across) 1 3 5 with 2 4 6 below; so 6th is at the bottom right. The Up only has 5 forward gears, but for some reason they decided to put R at the bottom right (so down from 5th... you can probably see where thi…

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Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914

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Those that haven’t burned (fuel injected high pressure fuel lines degraded and cracked) have rusted out, just sits too low to ground and can’t be left that way. Rebuilt one at 16 and took it to college!

> high pressure fuel lines degraded and cracked A vulnerability shared with all K-Jetronic engines. At some point I got clued in and kept a fire extinguisher on board my own 914, just in case. And it saw use, not on my own car, but doing damage control on a stranger's VW Beetle, in flames on the freeway shoulder.

Known issue with my car with D-Jetronic, too

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914

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post #319

Fine writing. Frankly I'm more intrigued by the fact that this seems to have gotten an easy #1 spot on hn. Writing about sketchy clutches on old cars does not generally attract wide hn acclaim. I'd love to hear opinions as to what made the difference...clearly something here is different.

I think it's a combination of factors: it is technical, it is funny, it is well written, it resonates with anyone who had to deal with "quirky" hardware, car or not (a.k.a. "that PC that only boots if you press and hold CapsLock"), plus the fact that the weekend is almost here.

I think you just thoroughly disproved your HN user ID.
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