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Twitter user sentenced to 150 hours of community service in UK

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Re: Twitter user sentenced to 150 hours of community service in UK

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Post by throwaway684936 »

systemvoltage wrote: post #159
paxys wrote: post #126

Crickets from the usual crowd who would be crying "cancel culture!" on all TV and radio for weeks and calling for heads to roll had the tweet been about something other than a cause they support (military worship). Governments and companies continue to get more and more empowered to do this stuff because people always show that it has never really been about freedom but rather pushing their own views.

I think this comment leaves a bad taste. It is dissing at partisanry where there isn't any. I personally know many republicans and democrats who have a staunch sense of free of speech. They all would be crying in unison. The problem with your view is 1) It is unsubstantiated - where do you see "crickets from the usual crowd"? 2) It is exaggerated and playing into partisan tribalism of people. 3) Creates more division…

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Re: Twitter user sentenced to 150 hours of community service in UK

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Post by throwaway684936 »

onion2k wrote: post #52
conradfr wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No one is stopping you (...) saying, whatever you want at any time. Well it seems this law actually does that.

Only if you think there's no difference between saying something and publishing it on the internet. When I said "saying" I mean that in a literal sense - speaking to people face to face. That is not the same as publishing something.

There are still slander laws, so you're wrong.

Re: Twitter user sentenced to 150 hours of community service in UK

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Post by wait_a_minute »

Stop using Twitter. Build open decentralized alternatives that won't cooperate with speech police. Defund the useless bureaucrats who exist only to police speech. Fire them. Let them compete for their bread and wine like all of us who work for a living.

Re: Twitter user sentenced to 150 hours of community service in UK

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Post by throwaway684936 »

tommek4077 wrote: post #34

Stop setting up those user accounts with your real names. Pseudonyms are a thing in the net since forever.

Can't believe I'm seeing this downvoted on HN. It's the absolute lowest common denominator of internet common sense.

Re: Twitter user sentenced to 150 hours of community service in UK

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Post by ethanpailes »

paxys wrote: post #126

Crickets from the usual crowd who would be crying "cancel culture!" on all TV and radio for weeks and calling for heads to roll had the tweet been about something other than a cause they support (military worship). Governments and companies continue to get more and more empowered to do this stuff because people always show that it has never really been about freedom but rather pushing their own views.

If the national review doesn’t count as the usual crowd, I don't know who does.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-scottish-governmen...

Re: Twitter user sentenced to 150 hours of community service in UK

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Post by coolso »

elliekelly wrote: post #154
coolso wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you may be looking for an issue where there is none on this one. While "the usual crowd" absolutely rightly believes in canceling the cancelers as pushback for anti-freedom policies like the cancel culture embraced by the left and progressives, I just Googled the guy's name and there's barely any news articles on it at all aside from a few tabloid-tech style sites like this one, starting a day or two ago. I'd…

> While "the usual crowd" absolutely rightly believes in canceling the cancelers as pushback for anti-freedom policies like the cancel culture embraced by the left and progressives Unironically canceling the cancelers to pushback against cancel culture? Maybe the horseshoe theory has some merit after all.

Certainly, it is the cancelers who are most upset when their behavior comes back around and bites them in the behind.

Do you also have a problem with robbers being punished by the justice system and having their ill-begotten spoils returned to their rightful owners? It’s really no different.

Re: Twitter user sentenced to 150 hours of community service in UK

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Post by mherdeg »

I'm a little surprised that the UK press is allowed to name Mr Kelly.

Once he has completed his punishment and appropriately paid for his crimes against society and the late Captain Moore, why will Mr Kelly still be newsworthy?

Won't he earn the right to have his crimes forgotten?

Re: Twitter user sentenced to 150 hours of community service in UK

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Post by rootusrootus »

beaconstudios wrote: post #140
helloworld11 wrote: post #133

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Aside from me absolutely being in favor of even offensive and racist speech out of general principles, you'd be surprised (or not) by how easily "racism" can be redefined to include all kinds of things that are very, very dubiously racist by any normal definition. There are extremely woke people who consider even questioning any of their arguments about race or class as a racist act. There are cases where a person ma…

> Out of many criticisms of the U.S. that the country deserves, its mostly rigid protection of free speech rights in a formal sense is one good thing, and it hasn't led to a hell of bigotry, or at least no more so than have weaker protections for free speech in other countries. Depends on how you measure it. The US has some pretty notable racial issues, even compared to other Anglosphere countries. I wouldn't put tha…

But is racism actually worse in the US? I feel like in many other western nations it's just more socially acceptable, and not so controversial.
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