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I didn't return my Apple Studio Display

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Re: I didn't return my Apple Studio Display

#31

My understanding is that the webcam issue has been essentially (not officially) confirmed as being a software bug. Which makes this kind of vitriol pretty unnecessary: > There is a product manager at Apple who, for some reason, hates webcam users with a burning passion. It also makes perfect sense, since the actual specs of the camera should be giving a much better picture.

The author has a point though, it's highly mysterious how this slipped past QA

Re: I didn't return my Apple Studio Display

#32

I prefer running two 144hz 27” 4k monitors instead. Yeah the 5k to 4k scaling isn’t as crisp as native 2x, but god the high refresh rate really makes up for it.

I really wish I'd never seen a screen with a 144 Hz refresh rate, I've not been able to un-see the difference from my 60 Hz setup ever since! I've done the same with audio, having bought a decent-ish set of speakers makes everything else sound like arse as much as it makes your music sound good.

I hear this all the time but across the room from my 60hz XDR is one of the fastest IPS panels ever, a 360hz e-Sports oriented monitor and a 144hz 4k monitor...

It takes no appreciable time to adjust when switching between any of the three. Maybe for a split second I notice the mouse cursor and then... nothing.

If I were gaming on the XDR it'd be one thing, but it's a productivity monitor. I don't need 144hz (or more) to watch text scroll, and the improved pixel density is 100x more satisfying for productivity usage.

In fact if anything I'd say going from 6k to 4k is what's more jarring than going from high refresh to low...

Re: I didn't return my Apple Studio Display

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post #28

The LG 5K has all the benefits of Retina 5K and most likely is the exact same panel. The biggest downside is the slower USB-C ports (5GB vs 10GB). The camera isn't technically as good as Apple's, but it also doesn't rely on Apple software. It can raise/lower and tilt without paying $400 extra. It has a black plastic frame which doesn't look as nice, but the glass won't chip if you bump your laptop into the side. If I…

Why is the camera so bad in Apple Studio Display, as the article claims? iPhone and iPad cameras are quite good.

Edit: Found in the comments a claim it’s a software bug.

Re: I didn't return my Apple Studio Display

#34

Imho the Apple Thunderbolt Display is still a great (and way much cheaper) alternative for those of us who can't care less about refresh rate or pixel density. If this one had a bigger size (say, 32 inches) and a more 'squared' ratio, I'd consider it an upgrade.

The pixel density of a 4K+ monitor makes all the difference, however. Text is much nicer to read.

Re: I didn't return my Apple Studio Display

#35
post #5

They sort of imply that only the Studio display would have given him a DPI increase over his previous 27" 1440p display. Any 4k screen would have also done that. Then he concludes that 600nits is unnecessary and that he doesn't need or want the USB-C ports. I have no idea why he went with the apple display instead of any good 4k screen for 400$, or two of them.

> would have given him a DPI increase over his previous 27" 1440p display. Any 4k screen would have also done that. While true, the ppi increase from most 4k screens would not be as large as the Apple Studio Display. Most 4k monitors are 24 inches, and those monitors will be 192.94 ppi. [0][1] The Apple Studio Display comes in at 218 ppi. [2] [0] https://www.sven.de/dpi/ [1] https://imgur.com/a/8Woe7Bn [2] https://ww…

> Most 4k monitors are 24 inches

Where are you getting this? I was looking at monitors recently and it's impossible to find ANY 24" 4K monitors. Most of them are 27", which at that screen size you really need scaling. My LG 27" 4K recently went out so I downgraded to my older 1440p 27" monitor. I'm not using scaling anymore, but the text doesn't have that buttery smooth look...

Re: I didn't return my Apple Studio Display

#36

My understanding is that the webcam issue has been essentially (not officially) confirmed as being a software bug. Which makes this kind of vitriol pretty unnecessary: > There is a product manager at Apple who, for some reason, hates webcam users with a burning passion. It also makes perfect sense, since the actual specs of the camera should be giving a much better picture.

I think the "vitriol" is perfectly valid.

Vague statements of "it will get better in the future" are non-binding and leave lots of wiggle room.

Let's be honest, the monitor does like two things that Apple claims justify the inclusion of the A13 (and the whopping 64 internal memory): the camera and sound.

Everyone who has used the product turns on the camera and instantly knows its garbage. Either Apple somehow got caught unaware or they thought it was good enough.

Re: I didn't return my Apple Studio Display

#37
post #26

I bought a very slightly used Iiyama 5K monitor (XB2779QQS-S1 with Displayport 1.4) for 450€. While it does have some stuck pixels, they are so tiny that you only notice them when you are looking for them. 1800€ is insane. I also use a 27" 4K monitor. The difference between the two isn't that great. 5K is mostly useful for 4K video editing. PS: It sounds as if the author would have had a great experience with a 350€…

Considering the number of people out there making enormous salaries doing jobs on computers, spending 10+ hours a day looking at their screen, 1800€ does not sound insane at all.

Same thing applies to any tool of any trade. I work with surgeons, and you would be amazed how unfathomably expensive all their instruments are.

(Though to be fair I do all my work on a pair of 100€ monitors.)

Re: I didn't return my Apple Studio Display

#38

It seems like those writing about this monitor are like "look it's got all these problems, but at least it doesn't have a notch so I'm keeping it."

This reviewer has three "cons".

(1) stand too low; (2) screen is glossy; (3) speakers have too much bass for video conferences.

(1) and (2) are addressed by the options Apple provides, so they are really complaints about the price (and those options are pricy!).

(3) seems pretty minor (notice the author also has the speakers in the "pros" column) and can maybe be addressed with a basic equalizer of some some.

In other words, all three cons are actually tradeoffs, which exist for all options (these are an individual call we all need to make).

Re: I didn't return my Apple Studio Display

#39

My understanding is that the webcam issue has been essentially (not officially) confirmed as being a software bug. Which makes this kind of vitriol pretty unnecessary: > There is a product manager at Apple who, for some reason, hates webcam users with a burning passion. It also makes perfect sense, since the actual specs of the camera should be giving a much better picture.

I took that more as poking fun than as true vitriol against a real-life product manager.

Re: I didn't return my Apple Studio Display

#40

I’ve been researching good monitors to upgrade from my Acer UM.CX2AA.P01 34” When the studio display got released I started to get excited. After all the reviews I’ve read I will definitely NOT buy it. Thanks for writing this! Planning on saving up until the Pro Display XDR gets updated and getting that instead.

Rumors say there could be a ProMotion capable display in the works, to be released in the fall. Might be the successor to the Pro XDR (at a lower price hopefully).

I highly doubt that you’ll be seeing a 120hz apple monitor in this price range this year.

It’s a bit cute that most reviewers panned this display because it wasn’t the Pro XDR display at this price,

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