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Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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We've been running ESET Nod32 for over a decade. Its strength is that it uses very low memory and CPU cycles due to the way it is built. It ticks all the boxes you've given above.

I've considered Eset a few times before. Never went all the way yet. Thank you. Anything in particular you want to add about it that might be a good tip or so? Something that only someone who's been using it for a while will know, kind of thing.

Back in 200x, we had a very old machine. It had 64Mb of RAM only. We had to install AV on this and through sifting through the AV softwares, only eset nod32 ran on it without slowing it down or taking too much resources. I like how they optimised it to the point where I could run it on that old machine. They say they write it in Assembly but I think it's just a marketing ploy. However the result satisfies me enough.

From then until now our business has gone through a lot but ESET has never been something that bothered us too much. It just sits in the background doing its thing. I have terrible memories of Symantec / McAfee just being annoying, but Nod32 is just the thing you install, it sits there and you can forget about it.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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> The problem is: how do you run a business that has offices and physical assets in Russia, without being at least partially beholden to the Russian government? The same could be said for businesses that have offices and physical assets in the US.

The argument is the US system is more accountable, fair, and able to be resisted. Not perfect by any means, but I see a lot of daylight between the two governments.

The way companies have to deal with National security letters and compliance with sanctions, amongst other things, suggests otherwise.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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I have also been amused by the number of technical people that prefer anything vs Signal in terms of security.

I've been amused by the number of technical people that prefer Signal vs just not shutting up about the messaging app they use and not pretending like they're some sort of authority on the topic instead of someone who deals with SOC2 compliance daily. (This is actually independent of you or Signal, I just find it amusing that people throw their security brand™ behind some app and it's just them picking the one they l…

It would be way weirder if people threw their brand support behind an app they didn't even like enough to use.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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I've considered Eset a few times before. Never went all the way yet. Thank you. Anything in particular you want to add about it that might be a good tip or so? Something that only someone who's been using it for a while will know, kind of thing.

Back in 200x, we had a very old machine. It had 64Mb of RAM only. We had to install AV on this and through sifting through the AV softwares, only eset nod32 ran on it without slowing it down or taking too much resources. I like how they optimised it to the point where I could run it on that old machine. They say they write it in Assembly but I think it's just a marketing ploy. However the result satisfies me enough.…

Ah yes. Assembly. I really should get around to learning it so I can test some game designs on my model 1 sega genesis.

I don't know if it's a marketing ploy rntksi. What you are describing so far sounds very much like it has been written in something like Assembly if not actually assembly. From what I know at least. (Could totally be way off)

Assembly as I know it, is used because it's not resource heavy if written properly. And an antivirus definitely needs to be written properly.

Anyways. Yeah, I am probably going to give it a look for use on my intel workstation/server. It's definitely one of the 'vulnerable' chips they released.

Oh well. So long as it does its job.

Symantec. shudders with rage

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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PRISM isn't mass surveillance. Snowden's slides clearly show it is a way for the NSA to ingest data from FBI wiretaps [1], which are targeted, which is why the only lawsuit brought against it was dropped. High school dropout Snowden and useful idiot Greenwald were too stupid to understand the slides they released and were called out about it immediately on Twitter. The New York Times [2][3] and CNET [4] subsequently…

There are many obvious errors in your claims, such as this: > Tempora is not even a US program, so clearly neither can violate the 4th Amendment The NSA is a partner in the program (led by the British, with whom the US has a very close intelligence partnership). The program does bulk collection on undersea cables which do carry Americans' data. This is prima facie a violation of the 4th Amendment. > which is why no l…

> The NSA is a partner in the program

The NSA is aware of the program but has no say in implementing it and doesn't have access to its data. Only the UK has the data and gets to choose who to share what they've learned from it to. This is clearly not a violation of the 4th Amendment, which is why nobody has sued the US government for it. If you believe it is a violation, go ahead and try to find a lawyer to take your case.

> The reason why lawsuits so rarely get anywhere...

No lawsuit was brought at all against XKeyscore or Tempora. That is the reason they didn't get anywhere. Lawsuits were brought against the phone metadata program, which succeeded, and against PRISM, which was thrown out because it didn't collect the data of the person who brought the lawsuit, unlike what Snowden and Greenwald erroneously claimed.

> Just so you recall, FISA is a court that operates in secret, that grants virtually all requests, and that has demonstrably signed off on Unconstitutional bulk surveillance

Once again, no program the court has signed off on has been ruled unconstitutional. Just so you recall, FISA is not a court but a law. FISC is the court that rules on FISA requests.

> And by the way, the type of behavior we're discussing here, which we know for a fact the US government has engaged in, is exactly what people in this thread are alleging the Russian government might theoretically do to Kaspersky.

The behavior we're alleging the Russian government could do with Kaspersky is putting malware in its software. We know the US government has done this for hardware exported overseas, which is why we are right to expect Russia to do this. We also know that Russia engages in dragnet domestic surveillance, which is something you're alleging that the US does, but there is no evidence of.

> Yes, a "high school dropout" who was paid 200 grand a year and given access to the NSA's classified networks. What a dummy!

He was a Sharepoint admin earning $122k. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/06/.... His hilarious misinterpretation of PRISM and other programs proves what a dummy he is. The fact that he dropped out of high school just explains how he came to be so stupid, and it should have been a signal for you to read the documents he leaked instead of expecting him to interpret them correctly for you.

> Bulk collection of records of millions of Americans (this is just the warrant that we know of, and there were almost certainly similar warrants covering most Americans, because by design, the program was meant to do bulk analysis of all call records) is obviously unconstitutional, but also very difficult to legally challenge.

They just have to have reason to believe their data is being collected to challenge it, as they did in Klayman v. Obama I. The conclusion was that the bulk collection of everybody's call records wasn't justified by the law, with no ruling on the constitutionality, possibly because there was precedent in Smith v. Maryland that it is constitutional (the very opposite of "obviously unconstitutional"). After that, Congress passed a law that allowed collection of millions of call records, and that was not even challenged.

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