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We analyzed 100K technical interviews to see where the best performers work

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If only someone had told all the recruiters who didn't start hitting me up until I had a FAANG on my resume.

That's not what I meant.

Ah I see what you meant now. I don't think the GP was referring to titles when they said "senior" - I'm pretty sure they meant experienced engineers.

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Except that interviewing.io interviews are specifically designed to be anonymous. This is even stated on their website. The interviewers do not see a resume or job history. As a candidate who's done a couple of interviews through them, the interviewers never asked anything about my background either. I don't recall even uploading a resume.

Yeah, but there's in-group jargon and technical approaches that FAANG and FAANG-adjacent engineers will pick up on. Just because you're anonymous doesn't mean you aren't unconsciously signaling your background to your interviewer.

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I think people put too much effort and time in this whole interview business. My suggestion, based on my experience, is to spend a reasonable time like a month, brushing up on most common data structures and algo. Then just take your chances. Rinse and repeat.

A month? That's what I would consider "too much effort". What I do is: - read the whole website of the company I want to work for - apply That's it. If after N years of experience I'm not able to pass the tech interviews then I'm not a suitable candidate for them, and I simply accept that. To me, spending a month memorizing and refreshing concepts I learned when I was at uni, feels like cheating (because I'll forget…

> If after N years of experience I'm not able to pass the tech interviews then I'm not a suitable candidate for them, and I simply accept that.

I wonder if you are thinking of the same tech interviews that anybody else here is talking about. Those tests are almost inversely correlated with N years of experience. Without specifically studying for those tests you would definitely score lower than an inferior (but well prepared) candidate.

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I believe you that this is the level of talent at western European universities but what about all the other universities outside of Western Europe that aren't like this. Should companies exempt you from a grueling interview process only if you are from one of these schools?

sure, why not? companies collect info about what school you graduated from and your grades anyway already. they can associate that data with who they fired to decide if they want to hire out of that school.

That would be an even more fragile metric. It only takes one or two bad professors to skew the stats.

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> It perpetuates the myth that there's something really special about Silicon Valley engineers Why are you sure it's a myth? My prior would be to believe that engineers at the most exclusive companies with the highest hiring bars that pay 3-5 times more than average would be better programmers. The article is just one data point confirming what intuitively should be true. If Silicon Valley engineers are no better tha…

There are capable people who don't want to live where 1000sqft home costs $1M. Never mind all of the other problems with the region. Selection bias doesn't prove anything about the people you aren't selecting for.

Are we talking capable or the very top? It's going to be a small minority of that top cohort where Bay Area COL is an issue.

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Interesting how everyone here reads the title differently than me.

I read “where the best performers work” as not where do the best coders/employees/whatever work… I read it as people who perform the best work. Where do people who do the best performance work? And in the context of interviewing - I don’t find this particularly weird to look at. Interviews are a performance.

That said - I’m apparently a weirdo!

Also, limiting this to companies with 50+ employees who have used the platform is going to definitely only let very large companies in the analysis. Even where I’m at now (1500 eng) I would be surprised if 50+ had used the platform because 75%+ were hired in the last 1-2 years.

Also - the way everyone here critiques the rating system - what a joke. You think the rubric at these big companies is really any better? You just find a way to shove your core feeling into the rubric and that’s it.

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Why does Dropbox software ship an amateurish Electron app then?

Sometimes I look at the credits lists for very impressive, native 90s desktop programs, that were made in a reasonable amount of time by a small group of people who, at least to some degree, had worse tools than we do now, for a smaller market and lower pay. Usually to be shipped on CD, so they even had to mostly work and not have too many bugs at launch, on top of that. And I wonder WTF happened to our industry and what the armies of programmers at all these companies are doing.

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I know a ton of engineers. Of them all, those working FAANG are profoundly less skilled than the others. It’s impossible to miss its so obvious. Maybe my social network is an outlier, but I really really doubt it.

why is this downvoted?

Because it's a just-so anecdote?

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Does this happen in any other field? If I was a doctor and wanted to work at some other company, would I need to study the MCAT every year in order to pass a screening interview based on one possible question? What's the equivalent in other fields? Closest I can think of is an acting audition but even then they give you the script beforehand. I'm beginning to think that the industry somehow settled on this approach n…

> " If I was a doctor and wanted to work at some other company, would I need to study the MCAT every year in order to pass a screening interview based on one possible question? " If you were a doctor, you would have gone through 4-5 years of supervised residency after medical school ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residency_(medicine) ) to guarantee some minimum level of competency before becoming a practitioner. Pay…

Yes but once you get through your residency your expected earnings go up quite a bit and you don’t go back to square one. If someone had told me that I’d still need to prep for leetcode interviews at age 55 I’d have chosen the MD path given a choice, but I’m also old enough to remember the days when you could get a decent coding job based mainly on your experience so from my perspective things have in general gotten demonstrably worse in terms of process for anything other than a lottery-ticket FAANG position.

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Hey, it's not our fault! Where else are posers gonna flock to to pose? I swear, even with all the remote work, more than 95%* of the people that worked here 5 years ago still do. We live here. * made up statistic.

I realize I wasn't being very nice, and I apologize for that. I'm quite sure there are plenty of very smart people who live in the bay area and do great work. With such a high concentration of engineers it makes sense plenty will suck, too. My experience is biased, of course. My company has offices all over the country and a couple years ago opened a new office in SF, and I'm 93.4% sure we don't exactly pay FAANG-com…

> I realize I wasn't being very nice, and I apologize for that.

No worries at all: I agree with you.

More then just salaries, there's definitely a glut of people chasing the gold rush. More power to 'em (I guess) but it is a bummer for the rest of us.

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