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I'm a scam prevention expert and I got scammed

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Re: I'm a scam prevention expert and I got scammed

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Post by Nextgrid »

InitialLastName wrote: post #185
rhizome wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never take restaurant phone numbers directly off of Google, I always check their (hopefully existent) website before calling, or at least crosscheck it against other sources. There is no way Grubhub or any of the other mediating greedholes will get even Caller ID data from me if I can help it.

Wait until you find out that Grubhub and ilk have been known to prop up fake websites for places.

When a small guy does something like this it's called fraud and heavily punished. When a VC-funded company does this it's called "growth hacking" and applauded.

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Post by dheera »

craftyguy wrote: post #233
dheera wrote: post #163

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Stuff in person costs 2X the price though. Especially bike parts. It's often cheaper to buy from Amazon but never go through troubleshooting support. Always return or replace. If that doesn't work, give a 1 star review, wait for the seller to come chasing you with a gift card in return for 5 stars. Change it to 5 stars, spend the gift card, and then change it back to 1 star.

As someone why buys a lot of cycling parts online, there are many mom/pop bike shops with web storefronts, that are very reasonably priced and often include "free" shipping. Stop giving bezos your money, you have no excuse.

Reality check:

I'm not exactly rich. When I'm a millionaire I'll happily support LBS.

Until then Amazon helps me save a shitton of money.

I got a pair of Continental GatorSkin tires from Amazon for 30% less than LBS just 2 weeks ago. And yes, I called LBS and checked the price.

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Post by Nextgrid »

Galaxeblaffer wrote: post #139
rolobio wrote: post #6

I nearly got taken by a scammer because Amazon transferred me to one. I purchased a set of Reolink cameras on Amazon, (they've been great) one of them failed a couple months in. I contacted Amazon customer support (via my Amazon login and in their interface) and they wanted to troubleshoot with their technical team. Eventually the (very helpful) Amazon technician suggested contacting Reolink for support and started a…

It's really hard recognizing the image Amazon have in the US compared to my personal experience with amazon.de . The service is stellar, shipping both ways is free as long as you buy products covered by prime. Refunds are with no questions asked (as long as you don't start abusing it i guess). As soon as you go into 3rd party sellers the experience gets muddled, though I've had plenty of good experiences with those a…

I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon is more strict in Europe because their behavior from the US would get them in legal trouble here.

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Post by grafporno »

verisimi wrote: post #238

Is it possible that this is a PR puff piece? I think you could argue that this guy gives us this long (and somewhat implausible) story in order to: a/ support the line of business he is in and b/ to justify all the privacy intrusions and obstructions that banks are undertaking

Probably, can't wait for the follow up article

"How i used social-engineering and HN to growth hack my scam prevention business" or something like that. This is some grade a bullshit.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

rolobio wrote: post #6

I nearly got taken by a scammer because Amazon transferred me to one. I purchased a set of Reolink cameras on Amazon, (they've been great) one of them failed a couple months in. I contacted Amazon customer support (via my Amazon login and in their interface) and they wanted to troubleshoot with their technical team. Eventually the (very helpful) Amazon technician suggested contacting Reolink for support and started a…

Apparently Amazon sells smart home lights from China that will not work if they can’t connect to their home servers in China. Be careful out there…

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Post by WorldMaker »

rexf wrote: post #294
WorldMaker wrote: post #266

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Something I learned (almost the hard way) was to always make sure I have a Bank/Credit Card's own app installed (and logged in) before trying to add to Apple Pay. Apple Pay can and will redirect you to verification steps in the app if the app is installed. More often than not, if you initiate "Add to Wallet" from the app itself there's no additional verification step.

The setup flow is hit or miss. With some banks, it was seamless to setup. With another bank, it wasn't clear how to finish setting up Apple Pay. I don't recall if I called them or went through their app to actually set it up. It was definitely confusing, and the Apple Pay onboarding screens didn't provide useful instructions.

I do not envy the Apply Pay team's challenge to have onboarding systems that span the vast disarray of bank systems (because I know some of my banks and how technically behind they can sometimes be, and I know mine aren't the worst offenders). It is probably a small miracle of engineering and patience that Apple Pay onboarding works at all. (And obviously it is complex enough scammers are using it as an excuse to scam, given the article contents here.)

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Post by linuxhansl »

There is one simple rule: If your bank calls you for anything, tell them you call them back, then look up their number you have (or the one on your credit credit or whatever) and call them back. Period.

Even if your bank is really calling you they will still understand if you call them back on the number you have.

Re: I'm a scam prevention expert and I got scammed

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Post by josephg »

jameshart wrote: post #160
Phiwise_ wrote: post #135

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Even already knowing about this I'm still mystified that landlines work this way on every occasion that I'm reminded of it. Does anyone know if there is, or at least was, a justification for this mode of operation? Was it at least of any use to anyone back around the 1900s or whenever or is it just another "we do it because that's how we've been doing it" residue that hasn't been cleaned yet?

Back in the day, folks would have more than one phone in their house. Someone would call and all the phones would ring (or you might turn off the ringers on some of them so only one main phone actually rings). So someone might pick up the phone in the entrance hall and the caller would ask to speak to Becky, and Becky’s mom would yell up the stairs ‘BECKY PHONE’ and then put the receiver back down while Becky runs in…

I saw this sort of thing in american sitcoms as a child, and I was always mildly triggered by it. Here in Australia the landline phone system disconnects as soon as either person hangs up.

On the shows they would sometimes hang up the phone, then somebody else picked up a receiver and the call continued?? Phones don't work like that! Go try it on your real phone, and you'll see!

It never occurred to me that US phones worked differently than Aussie phones.

The fact I was so bothered by this probably says an awful lot about what sort of person I was as a child. Its no accident I fell in love with computers.

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