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Re: Android Again

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Post by mattmaroon »

wired247 wrote: post #12

The reason that Microsoft/Windows has such a dominant market share has nothing to do with how 'open' the PC market is—it is due to the historical predominance of Microsoft DOS which is related to the fact that IBM was the first company that sold 'Personal' Computers into businesses. In the 1970's virtually no individuals had computers of their own, and the vast majority of people who had used a computer were exposed…

All they need for that is a solid ratings system in the store. Or possibly some independent third party certification system. Both are easily possible.

Re: Android Again

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Post by shimi »

wvenable wrote: post #4
volida wrote: post #2

i don't get it Symbian has a 70% of the market. Why is Android suddenly so important? sorry but as much I like Google I don't want them running the O/S on my phone.

Symbian is hell on developers. It is a platform, but it's not really used/marketed as a platform.

S60 is a platform, Symbian is an OS

And you're right about the development, its hell!!!!

I just want to add, the J60 isn't as good as the Android's Java environment (not even close), and it carries the penalty of the J2ME slogan write once test everywhere (to the point where different open S60 devices will behave differently)

Symbian week point is its development environment, I imagine they will have to respond in that front in the next versions.

Re: Android Again

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Post by ReverendBayes »

Google could end this now with a nationwide wimax buildout. Build a skype-like voice protocol on the android stack, open source a reference hardware design, and let programmers planetwide innovate on the platform. Would fell the iphone and every other carrier within a year or two.

Re: Android Again

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Post by netcan »

ReverendBayes wrote: post #23

Google could end this now with a nationwide wimax buildout. Build a skype-like voice protocol on the android stack, open source a reference hardware design, and let programmers planetwide innovate on the platform. Would fell the iphone and every other carrier within a year or two.

Sure?

Re: Android Again

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Post by mattmaroon »

ReverendBayes wrote: post #23

Google could end this now with a nationwide wimax buildout. Build a skype-like voice protocol on the android stack, open source a reference hardware design, and let programmers planetwide innovate on the platform. Would fell the iphone and every other carrier within a year or two.

Google failed to win the broadcast spectrum to build out anything. It's not as simple as just deciding to put up some towers.

Re: Android Again

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Post by mattmaroon »

axod wrote: post #18
michaelneale wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well given android also uses webkit, even with the option of installable apps, this will only help web apps if it takes off - as the lowest cost way to target a mobile app for both android and iphone is a webkit compatible web app.

Don't forget the tabs, zoom, text entry, scrolling etc that makes Safari on the iphone so easy. As long as android has all that, it could be good :)

They'd be nuts to not just copy it. iPhone's zooming is pretty awesome.

Re: Android Again

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Post by michaelneale »

shimi wrote: post #17
michaelneale wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well given android also uses webkit, even with the option of installable apps, this will only help web apps if it takes off - as the lowest cost way to target a mobile app for both android and iphone is a webkit compatible web app.

I must add that the S60 (Mostly Nokia's Symbian devices) are using webkit as well

I think the blackberry will be shortly as well.

Re: Android Again

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Post by paulgb »

ashu wrote: post #5
axod wrote: post #3

The iPhone has the best browser available for a smartphone... and if you have a browser you can do pretty much anything. What is the lure going to be for people to stop moving to webapps, and suddenly embrace an open platform and installable apps? The web, through a browser, is the best open platform IMHO

What is the lure going to be for people to stop moving to webapps, and suddenly embrace an open platform and installable apps? The fact that internet connectivity on a desktop vs. on your mobile device is different by an order of magnitude. When you get ubiquitous and fast internet on the mobile device (not some bizarre spotty coverage), then things will change. Maybe Europe is ahead in regards to that, but in the US…

"Another Edit: perhaps, when something like Google Gears is everywhere, it might change. But offline support - both for code and data - is kind of essential."

HTML 5 includes a storage API, including a SQL database. Apparently the iPhone already has it, and any browser based on WebKit (Nokia, Android?) will likely have it in the not too distant future.

Re: Android Again

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Post by paulgb »

michaelneale wrote: post #27
shimi wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I must add that the S60 (Mostly Nokia's Symbian devices) are using webkit as well

I think the blackberry will be shortly as well.

Is that just a hunch? I'd be excited to see WebKit on the BlackBerry as well, but I haven't heard anything about it.

Re: Android Again

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Post by kapitti »

It's comments like this:

"And there’s the Shuffle, which I’m not really sure if anyone ever purchases, but maybe it’s just for people who are too poor to buy the Nano and only own 3 CDs because most of their collection is still on 8-track."

That make me dislike Matt - there's just something about the tone of that statement.

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