SerenityOS Browser now passes the Acid3 test

Post by stolen_biscuit » Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 11:23 PM UTC

tannhaeuser wrote: post #59

From serenityos.org: > ... marriage between the aesthetic of late-1990s productivity software and the power-user accessibility of late-2000s *nix > ... a system by us, for us, based on the things we like Come on, just say you want back your Win98/Win2K look'n feel ;) While I personally like my windows less decorated and more Mac OS-like, I'm quite impressed by the determination and progress of the SerenityOS team. Ar…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 11:48 PM UTC

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #50

I've watched a few of this guy's videos, and it's deeply impressive. He reminds me of the grizzled old guys from the 1980's that actually know the deep internals of an OS. They didn't just take it in school, they lived and breathed it. He's the guy that made the 'myth' of a 10x coder a reality for me. I get this is his passion project, but part of me wonders what he could accomplish working on the rough edges of linu…

Post by smt88 » Thu, Mar 31, 2022, 12:46 AM UTC

rjh29 wrote: post #99

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #50

I've watched a few of this guy's videos, and it's deeply impressive. He reminds me of the grizzled old guys from the 1980's that actually know the deep internals of an OS. They didn't just take it in school, they lived and breathed it. He's the guy that made the 'myth' of a 10x coder a reality for me. I get this is his passion project, but part of me wonders what he could accomplish working on the rough edges of linu…

By his own admission he basically did nothing but coding all day long for most of his life, to the point where if he took a long vacation he'd be worried about getting rusty. For SerenityOS he basically holed up in a cabin for 6 months coding. At dayjob it was "60-80 hours a week", not forced but because he wanted to do it. That kind of sustained and focused work compounds over time and you just get better and better…

Post by c-smile » Thu, Mar 31, 2022, 1:14 AM UTC

akling wrote: post #80

kragen wrote: post #69

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What's a rough minimum for a page with some text on it? Are we talking about 64MiB like Chromium, WebKit, or Gecko, or more like 16KiB, 256KiB, 4MiB, or 1 GiB? I think of memory usage as being more about correctness than performance, though I know that isn't how most people see it. Trying to run a 512MiB process on a 64MiB computer, or a 512GiB process on a 64GiB computer, is just never going to run at a usable speed…

If I open this HN discussion page in the browser, it currently uses 44MB of private memory. We can definitely shave a couple of megabytes off of it with some effort, but supporting the contemporary web on a 4MB budget seems infeasible.

Post by bla3 » Thu, Mar 31, 2022, 2:41 AM UTC

kragen wrote: post #90

akling wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I open this HN discussion page in the browser, it currently uses 44MB of private memory. We can definitely shave a couple of megabytes off of it with some effort, but supporting the contemporary web on a 4MB budget seems infeasible.

Nice! Thanks! That's a real improvement over the existing browsers! Yeah, clearly you can't run Slack or Fecebutt in 4MiB, but there's a lot you could do. Even Lynx takes 14MB of RSS (not all private!) and 25MB of VSZ to load this discussion page, and Links is 9MB/13MB. (Neither of them produces a usable layout, but that's not because they're using a lot of memory.) The page source is 179K, links's "formatted output"…