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America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate

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Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate

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post #114

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How are they doing that if they aren't allowed to live or work in the US after they finish their degree?

They're doing the research and publishing the results during the degree. That's part of the PHD.

PhD's real work starts after they graduate.

Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate

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That would be amazing.

Keep in mind that China will not stop being a problem, it just moves it around. The CCP will have more people in the US with family back in China, so they can manipulate those in the US to steal and spy for them. They will grow the presence of CSSAs and universities will become increasingly dependent on income from fulltime Chinese students, which will paradoxically disincentivize US universities from educating US st…

>universities will become increasingly dependent on income from fulltime Chinese students

I mean, sure, because Americans keep voting to defund public higher ed.

Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate

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Per [1], the House version contains important immigration provisions. 1) The bill would create a new category of non-immigrant visa called the W visa for owners (W-1) or essential employees (W-2) of start-up companies and their dependent family members (W-3). 2) The bill would exempt applicants holding a PhD in a STEM field from the annual per-country green card limits, enabling them to quickly apply for permanent re…

> The bill would exempt applicants holding a PhD in a STEM field from the annual per-country green card limits, enabling them to quickly apply for permanent residency without being subject to the availability of an immigrant visa

Watch as this one gets limited and watered down. Foreign PhD graduates are a cheap labor force for STEM universities.

Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate

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You say that like they don't already exist

Not at all. Extra benefits to Ph. D. holders means more Ph. D. mills, regardless of how many already exist.

So who cares? What's the point?

Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate

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To give an idea of how much content is in this bill, please see "Sec. 74029. Beverage containing coconut water." where duties on imports of beverages containing at least 10% coconut water are hereby free .

Ah so you import the water, then remove the coconut, and sell it was Himalayan spring water.

Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate

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And, globalization is dying, rather yet it might have reached its crescendo.

I think globalization got as far as it could, but the friction between US, Russia, and China prevented us from reaching it's full potential. Now, we'll probably slide back into protectionism.

Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate

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Exactly! But meanwhile the narrative in the USA is "we're so benevolent for accepting the world's best & brightest." The USA gets stronger. The sources of that strength weaker. It's a broken idea.

If you take a top experimental particle physicist and put him in Dhaka you don’t get great experimental particle physics; you get a mediocre accountant with memories of particle physics.

Fazlur Kahn, the structural engineer and architect behind the Sears Tower, once went to accept some award in his home country of Bangladesh. Someone asked why he didn’t come back home. He responded: “I design skyscrapers. What would I do here?”

Which is true. At the same time, what’s been his contribution to Bangladesh? Nothing, aside from a bit of trivia I tell people when I show them around Chicago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fazlur_Rahman_Khan

Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate

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My problems are twofold:

1) This exacerbates brain-drain from the developing world, creating problems down the line that the developed world will have to reckon with.

2) There are already many university graduates in the US who have trouble finding work. Indeed, employers can often use the fact that foreign workers are 'bound' to their employers to depress wages.

Without addressing 1, the best way to address 2 would be to detach the employment requirements from the W class of visas.

Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate

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post #55

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> 1) The bill would create a new category of non-immigrant visa called the W visa for owners (W-1) or essential employees (W-2) of start-up companies and their dependent family members (W-3). I'm always disappointed in this style of visa. These are the kinds of people we want to keep , not make their stay contingent on working at or running a startup. To me, it's really stupid that anything but a tourist/business vis…

> To me, it's really stupid that anything but a tourist/business visit visa should be non-immigrant; all long-term stay visas should provide an easy path to permanent residence (sure, assuming whatever reasonable qualifications are met). Americans don’t want that. A lot of our immigration-related problems is that the executive branch created a de facto permanent immigration system (with modest Congressional acquiesce…

And this is the only reason the US is competitive in tech, around half the faang employees came through H1B/L-1 to EB. Those visas were designed to be dual intent, no-one was lied to there.

Just do what the EU does and leave immigration to the states, I’d be fine having a California-only green card before naturalizing. No one wants to move to Mississippi or any of those anti immigration states anyway ;-)

Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate

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post #97
post #55

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> 1) The bill would create a new category of non-immigrant visa called the W visa for owners (W-1) or essential employees (W-2) of start-up companies and their dependent family members (W-3). I'm always disappointed in this style of visa. These are the kinds of people we want to keep , not make their stay contingent on working at or running a startup. To me, it's really stupid that anything but a tourist/business vis…

> To me, it's really stupid that anything but a tourist/business visit visa should be non-immigrant; all long-term stay visas should provide an easy path to permanent residence (sure, assuming whatever reasonable qualifications are met). Americans don’t want that. A lot of our immigration-related problems is that the executive branch created a de facto permanent immigration system (with modest Congressional acquiesce…

And the countries that did not create it don't have a tech industry. Look at Europe - how many tech success stories are there?
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