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Re: Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app stores under new EU law

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the platform development comes with sale of the platform - which is to say the customer has already paid to have it developed by buying the phone. Many developers don't want to have apple be their gatekeeper for apps. They should be able to have alternatives. Apple's rent seeking behaviour is to take platform development in the cost of the device and again to distribute apps without any alternative.

I agree and this debate is infuriating. They got paid when I bought their hardware. I should owe them nothing more to use the device after that point.

It's already a competitive landscape. If you feel Apple is unfairly charging you extra for something, then you have a myriad number of Android and other phones to choose from.

On the other hand, if Apple's model allows them to better compete with others and create a superior product that people want ... well then, it's ridiculous to mandate they should do business a different way.

Re: Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app stores under new EU law

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post #121

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I agree and this debate is infuriating. They got paid when I bought their hardware. I should owe them nothing more to use the device after that point.

It's already a competitive landscape. If you feel Apple is unfairly charging you extra for something, then you have a myriad number of Android and other phones to choose from. On the other hand, if Apple's model allows them to better compete with others and create a superior product that people want ... well then, it's ridiculous to mandate they should do business a different way.

>Apple's model allows them to better compete

their business business model allows them to compete because they're rent seeking by grazing off developers and apps that dont want or need their app store, payment processor, etc.

Wow who knew rent seeking was massively profitable, huge surprise!

Re: Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app stores under new EU law

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> The point is none of the third party app stores pay for any of the platform development ... Isn't that because Apple doesn't allow for third party repos/stores/etc? If that changes after all (I'm personally hoping it does), then it would make sense that the new alternative store(s) would have their own overheads (development, running costs, etc) and would have their own fees. That seems sensible, yeah?

The other stores wouldn't be paying for the ongoing development and maintenance of the iOS, UIKit, OpenGL/Metal, etc. That stuff is NOT cheap to develop and maintain. The final app that you see is trivial compared to the mountain of libraries and frameworks that Apple provides.

people who buy the phones pay for ongoing development and maintenance of ios and apple's software.

Re: Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app stores under new EU law

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post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The point is none of the third party app stores pay for any of the platform development ... Isn't that because Apple doesn't allow for third party repos/stores/etc? If that changes after all (I'm personally hoping it does), then it would make sense that the new alternative store(s) would have their own overheads (development, running costs, etc) and would have their own fees. That seems sensible, yeah?

The other stores wouldn't be paying for the ongoing development and maintenance of the iOS, UIKit, OpenGL/Metal, etc. That stuff is NOT cheap to develop and maintain. The final app that you see is trivial compared to the mountain of libraries and frameworks that Apple provides.

> The other stores wouldn't be paying for the ongoing development and maintenance of the iOS, UIKit, OpenGL/Metal, etc.

Sure. And who cares? That has nothing at all to do with the App Store fees. :)

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