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The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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2 hour commute! Is that typical in the USA? Is it necessary? Preferable? My bike ride to my office is 10 minutes. I miss my commute.

What if you go for a bike ride in the morning instead?

Some people (such as myself) rely on the somewhat enforced structure of going into the office to "attach" other life things onto, like exercise and going out. Without that structure, i'm miserable.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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"Nailed" it. Perfect description of my situation. I wish I weren't like this

To say it with the words of my first boss that stuck with me: "Love it, change it or leave it. No amount of complaining will ever do anything else than paint you as a naysayer." Was a hard pill to swallow, but my own experience proved me again and again he was spot on.

In this case, would the 'change it' option be to just work from home and see what happens?

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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I don't get why they are not just talking to each other, is it that hard to say "I'll be in on Wednesday, will you? So we can chat about X" and why are so many people living 2 hours away from where they work then complaining about it. Like you chose to live there and work elsewhere.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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First the companies offshored the jobs, now the employees offshore themselves. At some point, somebody will start asking why the Indian working remotely in India is paid less than the American/European expat working remotely from Bali.

Many companies already do location based salaries for remote workers, meaning you will be paid less if you live in Bali than San Francisco. Essentially, the company is performing location arbitrage rather than the employee. Next companies create more attractive work places in cheaper areas and lures employees there.

Yeah, if my company did that I would leave. Pay is pay.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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Employees need to be on site, we’re told, because collaborating with one another has been harder to do when everyone is working from separate locations. I think this is true, but only if the main part of your job is collaborating eg talking to other people to reach a consensus. That is easier face to face. The problem is that only higher up management roles are actually like that. Lower down the tree people are expec…

> That is easier face to face Written down communication makes things impossible to wiggle out of later on, meaning the writing needs to happen anyway, why waste time on the face to face?

In many cases, in my experience, it’s because it’s way more efficient face to face. You can always follow up with written confirmation.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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Why you need to stay home and isolate? Is it required in your country?

Laws are irrelevant. It's the considerate thing to do.

Of course stay away from crowded, public, indoor spaces.

But keeping your kids indoors is not considerate towards anyone. It is simply abusive to your kids.

Let them out in the garden/park/street to play.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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>I have emails from the CEO personally thanking me for my commitment in going way over what was expected when basically saving the institution during lockdown It's a business not a skate park, tell your CEO that you appreciate the positive feedback but that if he really means what he is saying: he should put his money where his mouth is and give you a sizable raise or a considerable bonus.

Money doesn't solve every problem.

Yes it mostly always does. To think that it's not is to be in a position where you have to much of it.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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There is a big reason to Work from office, apart from the merits of the case like close collaboration, productivity et al. Most important of all is being able to see your manager on a day to day basis, a lot of people don't really understand how important seeing your bosses on a day to day basis can be to their careers. Most people have a problem of neglecting what isn't front of them, it's not malice or anything its…

Bear in mind that not everyone is particularly career-focused. I'm perfectly happy getting "meets expectations" at annual reviews, and if I'm not happy with the pay rise (as happened to me last week), I'm happy looking for another job to get the bump I want.

People who bother to go on HN probably skew more towards career-focused than not, but plenty of people are very happy doing the work given to them and no more.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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post #51

I love coming in to the office. Granted, I live a 20 min walk away. The walk in is through a beautiful county park, surrounded by nature. Most of my colleagues who live further away have stopped coming in. Understandable, I wouldn't want to get in a car to get here, traffic in the UK is horrible. It's all about personal circumstances, really. Living close to my workplace, having access to a nice office that is (now)…

The office is not as bad as people make it out to be. Its commuting that really sucks. I used to hate working in the office and then I moved to an apartment next to work and I decided to walk in even while WFH was an option because I did slightly prefer going to the office and being with everyone.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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To say it with the words of my first boss that stuck with me: "Love it, change it or leave it. No amount of complaining will ever do anything else than paint you as a naysayer." Was a hard pill to swallow, but my own experience proved me again and again he was spot on.

In this case, would the 'change it' option be to just work from home and see what happens?

find a fully remote job if you can
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