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The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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I love coming in to the office.

Granted, I live a 20 min walk away. The walk in is through a beautiful county park, surrounded by nature.

Most of my colleagues who live further away have stopped coming in. Understandable, I wouldn't want to get in a car to get here, traffic in the UK is horrible.

It's all about personal circumstances, really. Living close to my workplace, having access to a nice office that is (now) mostly quiet, I quiet enjoy the new work culture :).

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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In a hierarchy of options, it’s unsurprising most companies are settling in the worst of options, much like they did with their poorly designed open office plans.

There’s nothing worse than the “flexible” options companies are settling on, where people come 2-3 days a week, have no fixed seating arrangements, and need to get used to a new setup every time.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

#53

My workplace requires me to visit the office once every two weeks. And even then I only go for a friendly one-on-one type of lunch with my boss. Nothing we ever discuss justifies the two hour commute, the same things could be discussed in Zoom. And yet, I am supposed to visit every two weeks. Now it turned out that during my last visit my boss had already been infected with covid. So not only me, but my wife and my t…

Use your sick time dude not vacation days

At some places, you get to choose when to use sick days but not vacation days. All else being equal, in that case, I'd sometimes prefer to burn vacation.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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post #26

In my view, the biggest problem with hybrid is: You are still required to live/reside near the office. Fully remote allows me to live in a very affordable area while still earning a great salary

If it's just once a week or less, you can travel. It's quite doable, and you're not constrained by the needs of a daily commute.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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post #26

In my view, the biggest problem with hybrid is: You are still required to live/reside near the office. Fully remote allows me to live in a very affordable area while still earning a great salary

First the companies offshored the jobs, now the employees offshore themselves. At some point, somebody will start asking why the Indian working remotely in India is paid less than the American/European expat working remotely from Bali.

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Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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I do the exact same job in my office than with my laptop anywhere else. Im in my mid 30s, and most of employees are +45 in my job. They really want to come back, and there are already a few in there, but whats the point? I guess they feel lonely, bosses too, but my life is so much better with WFH. Now Im just used to go places with my laptop, my phone as hotspot, and do work somewhere nice and quiet. I can even trave…

It might go either way to be honest. I'm currently living and working Spain as a SWE (immigrant) for a US company and the amount of useless meetings there is insane. That makes it quite hard to work on-the-go as half of the day is spent in meetings (most of them with camera turned on).

We rearely do that. We just type the stuff we need in teams and the occasional formative talk once a month or so.

Meetings are about twice a year, and they appear in my teams calendar so I can plan ahead.

When I feel we need a serious discussion I write a long ass text, and people usually follows without needing a call. It's like forums, so that's something I'm used to.

But again, my job is very jump in, jump out. I don't really need too much focus, it's pretty much helpdesk with some admin, so I can get distracted without problem, and I don't really need to keep any code model in my head.

My only worry if I find a job in SW will be that, the need to keep my mind focused, not being able to be pretty much anywhere. I hope the pay offsets this fact.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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I don't understand the headline. What's the 'worst part of working from home' in this context? In my case, my employer isn't forcing anyone to come back to the office, but there's definitely an unspoken understanding that 'collaboration' and 'team feeling' will improve if we're at the office more often. But when I go to the office it perfectly reflects the experiences described in the article: I'm almost always the o…

> […] and I always have to work twice as hard for the following days at home […]

Why? If socializing in the office is part of your job now (explicitly or implicitly), you're working your hours either way. If that leaves you with too little time to get things done, address it with your manager.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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post #42

Same situation with me. I go to office 3 days but most of the time the meetings are taken from the desk, on zoom. This is because most tech employees have bigger monitors which is convenient compared to tiny laptop screens. IMO remote is extremely popular among employees and many will jump ship if given remote option. Any eventual plans for mandatory all 5-day at office will be suicidal for knowledge work companies.

Of course, the big monitor and quiet room that some of us get to enjoy were paid for by our salaries, net of tax. Yet if we try to convince the employers paying those salaries to give us computing equipment that we like and private offices, it's hopeless.

Re: The worst part of working from home is now haunting reopened offices

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with Zoom calls in the office is that you usually do them at your desk rather than in a meeting room, and when you do that, you are totally destroying the productivity of anyone who happens to be in the room with you. Not to mention what happens if several people in the same room have different calls at the same time...

You can use the Zoom chat and just share your screen to use as a whiteboard. No need for audio.

Unless you're steno-typing, good luck matching speech speed with your typing. And I'm not even talking about audio & visual cues.

There's no way typing can replace speech in an actual meeting. It's better reserved to either deliberate asynchronous communication, or very short, often purely factual, conversations.

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