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The Beatle Who Got Away

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Re: The Beatle Who Got Away

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I tend to think of The Beatles as a fantastic world-spanning pachinko game. Once Ww2 ended and a mass boom of young people with disposable income crossed with new mass media markets and advances in recording distribution technology, it was inevitable that some act or another would be the first-to-market with catchy tunes and stadium-filling star power. Heck, even the stadiums were a modern combination of improved bui…

it could've been The Monkees

It could've been Badfinger.

Re: The Beatle Who Got Away

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I tend to think of The Beatles as a fantastic world-spanning pachinko game. Once Ww2 ended and a mass boom of young people with disposable income crossed with new mass media markets and advances in recording distribution technology, it was inevitable that some act or another would be the first-to-market with catchy tunes and stadium-filling star power. Heck, even the stadiums were a modern combination of improved bui…

> some act or another would be the first-to-market with catchy tunes and stadium-filling star power The thing about the Beatles is that even after they stopped filling stadiums, they turned to experimental and innovative musical techniques that changed the face of popular music forever. Their best and most beloved work all came after Beatlemania ended... any attractive boy band with a catchy beat could've fulfilled y…

> any attractive boy band with a catchy beat

No need to beat around the bush : surely you mean the Stones.

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> some act or another would be the first-to-market with catchy tunes and stadium-filling star power Yes, but The Beatles were at least an order of magnitude better than anyone could have reasonably expected.

Definitely. Especially surprising for a long time to me, given that their early songs seem really simple (She loves you...). And while that may be true, what one must realise is that the Beatles kind of started out as a cover band, as a "live juke box" really playing in clubs. So even before they published the first album they had a routine of hundreds of songs from memory. I think this cannot be underestimated as a…

And while that may be true, what one must realise is that the Beatles kind of started out as a cover band, as a "live juke box" really playing in clubs.

Funny thing from the recent Rubin/McCartney interview series: McCartney mentioned that they'd play with other bands the same night and that there was always the risk that another band did a better cover of a song that was also on their set list. So, they started writing their own songs to avoid that other bands would play the same songs that night.

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Definitely. Especially surprising for a long time to me, given that their early songs seem really simple (She loves you...). And while that may be true, what one must realise is that the Beatles kind of started out as a cover band, as a "live juke box" really playing in clubs. So even before they published the first album they had a routine of hundreds of songs from memory. I think this cannot be underestimated as a…

And while that may be true, what one must realise is that the Beatles kind of started out as a cover band, as a "live juke box" really playing in clubs. Funny thing from the recent Rubin/McCartney interview series: McCartney mentioned that they'd play with other bands the same night and that there was always the risk that another band did a better cover of a song that was also on their set list. So, they started writ…

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Re: The Beatle Who Got Away

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> some act or another would be the first-to-market with catchy tunes and stadium-filling star power Yes, but The Beatles were at least an order of magnitude better than anyone could have reasonably expected.

Definitely. Especially surprising for a long time to me, given that their early songs seem really simple (She loves you...). And while that may be true, what one must realise is that the Beatles kind of started out as a cover band, as a "live juke box" really playing in clubs. So even before they published the first album they had a routine of hundreds of songs from memory. I think this cannot be underestimated as a…

Indeed. There's knowing something having learned it from somewhere, and then there's KNOWING that thing, having used it for years. There aren't really short cuts to that second level.

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If the universe is deterministic it was going to happen no matter what.

Yes, but it isn't.

It almost certainly is - there is a single phenomenon in physics that has any chance of being non-deterministic (the interaction between a quantum system and a classical system, "measurement") - otherwise all of the rest of quantum mechanics and classical mechanics and general relativity are fully deterministic (though chaotic).

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The thing that amazes me about the Beatles is that they were led by a musical genius. And then a second member of the band achieved the same level of musical genius (some would say an even greater level of genius). And then within a few years, a third member of the band that was just the rhythm guitarist demonstrated that he also achieved an astonishing level of musical genius. Especially for that time, this was incr…

So you’re saying that you think John Lennon was the last one to be considered a musical genius?

No he is clearly saying that George Harrison is the last one, because he genuinely hit his peak after the Beatles disbanded (in my opinion).

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This is the true role of a great drummer. To play what is needed and nothing more or less. Sometimes to be quiet and stay in the background, sometimes to be loud and take up space, sometimes just to crack a joke and break the tension when things start to get off track.

It really shines through in Get Back - Paul, John and (to a lesser extent) George are flailing about, causing drama but Ringo just patiently sits behind his drums and as soon as anyone starts playing he's there to pick up the beat.

My musician friends were offended at the Beatles’ musicianship watching that film.

It’s hard to realize that being great isn’t good enough, you need lightning to strike and you need to be there when it happens.

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