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I’m getting deja vu to “WMDs”, “moderate rebels,” “dictators,” and “national security.” Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
is a record for how quick someone can turned to whataboutism?
I’m sorry but are you stupid? Your first comment is literally whataboutism, which I made fun of in response.
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No, Snowden's leaks show DoD lawyers working hard to justify programs under the 4th Amendment. In the fallout of the leaks, all but phone metadata collection passed muster.
The dragnet surveillance programs that Snowden revealed are obviously outlawed by the 4th Amendment. Of course lawyers working for these agencies will try to justify them. That's what they're paid to do. During the Bush Jr. years, lawyers for the administration also argued that torture was legal, despite the fact that it's blatantly illegal. Nevertheless, these programs are incredibly difficult to challenge in court,…
There was only one extant US dragnet surveillance program in Snowden's leaks, which was the phone metadata collection, so I don't know why you have the plural. Snowden's leaks showed the lawyers' justification for that program (https://www.aclu.org/files/natsec/nsa/20130816/2009%20OIG%20...) which said that the data does not fall under Fourth Amendment protection by Supreme Court precedent, and it was never ruled unconstitutional, only exceeding the law that the government claimed had authorized it.
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is a record for how quick someone can turned to whataboutism?
I’m sorry but are you stupid? Your first comment is literally whataboutism, which I made fun of in response.
You don't think there is a direct connection between Edward Snowden, Kaspersky, Russia and the NSA? That is a very interesting take you have.
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I'm getting deja vu to when I was told Russian's continued invasion of Ukraine was just propaganda by the West [1] https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1494006204896620548
I hadn't seen this. Wow, what a fail. Like not only factually wrong but parrots Putin's now quite obviously false narrative about the motivation, which I don't remember seeing anyone else outside of the Kremlin doing.
Do you consider Glenn Greenwald part of Kremlin? He has spent the last month doubling down on parroting Putins talking points [1]
[1] https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1508831524854059008
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#367Ok, let's cut the crap. Is Kaspersky a dirtbag or not? I suspect not, but it is an unfortunate accident he was born in and runs his company from Russia, the government of which is a dirtbag, so, correct me if I am wrong, Kaspersky must be a dirtbag by association, but especially for discovering Stuxnet. Believable, but I think the real reasons Kaspersky is persona non grata is due to having discovered Stuxnet, and Ka…
You're saying things that are obvious but the facts are:
1. Kaspersky could have long ago left Russia
2. We can't trust Kaspersky
3. The fight is real, even if the US gov lied, incentives matter
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I would really hope my organization doesn't start blanket banning excel macros for "security". It'll be a huge blow to productivity for several.
They'd just learn Python. They'd be fine.
The problem with macros is that people are running arbitrary code that's emailed to them. I don't see how Python solves that at all. If someone isn't checking the macros in the sheet they received before running it, they're also not going to check the code in the Python script.
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I hadn't seen this. Wow, what a fail. Like not only factually wrong but parrots Putin's now quite obviously false narrative about the motivation, which I don't remember seeing anyone else outside of the Kremlin doing.
Do you consider Glenn Greenwald part of Kremlin? He has spent the last month doubling down on parroting Putins talking points [1] [1] https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1508831524854059008
That's insane. No, I don't think even the Kremlin is that supportive of the invasion.
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#370Ok, let's cut the crap. Is Kaspersky a dirtbag or not? I suspect not, but it is an unfortunate accident he was born in and runs his company from Russia, the government of which is a dirtbag, so, correct me if I am wrong, Kaspersky must be a dirtbag by association, but especially for discovering Stuxnet. Believable, but I think the real reasons Kaspersky is persona non grata is due to having discovered Stuxnet, and Ka…
It doesn't matter. The fact is Kaspersky (the company) can be coerced by the Russian government to exploit their highly privileged systems access to millions of computers around the globe. I don't expect Kaspersky (the person) to play hero under these circumstances.
But is FTC acting after seeing evidence for clear and present wrongdoing or is it merely making a geopolitical assessment.
FTC should follow a fair and evidence based process for arriving at a decision like this.
There should be punitive measures only after it has been established that there is wrongdoing.