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Re: Popular Tibetan singer Tsewang Norbu dies of self-immolation protest

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Post by roeles » Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 10:39 AM UTC

technobabbler wrote: post #274

roeles wrote: post #242

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If diversity is a threat, then I wonder why Taoism is not treated like buddhism.

I don't know enough about Taoism to even speculate. What are your thoughts?

I see similarities between Buddhism and Taoism. As far as I understand both, their attitude towards life is similar. Both acknowledge dualism and the need for balance in your life. I think both acknowledge the interconnected-ness of life.

Taoism inside China doesn't appear to be involved in worldly matters such as politics. Then again, I don't really know what Tibet has concretely done to upset China. Is it just the desire for independence?

Re: Popular Tibetan singer Tsewang Norbu dies of self-immolation protest

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Post by sixQuarks » Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 11:50 AM UTC

pvaldes wrote: post #133

treeman79 wrote: post #49

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It’s absolutely shocking how much pain you can be in before losing control if your willpower is strong enough.

> It’s shocking how much pain you can be in if your willpower is strong enough. Or you are drugged with something strong enough. A much simpler explanation that doesn't require to believe in guys developing supernatural superpowers.

What drug could work in that situation? I don’t think morphine would do the trick.

And even if there was a drug that would let you tolerate this level of pain, you would expect that it would make you super drowsy or at least not be able to stand still like they do. I don’t know, maybe you’re right though

Re: Popular Tibetan singer Tsewang Norbu dies of self-immolation protest

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Post by cyberpunk » Tue, Mar 29, 2022, 7:28 PM UTC

julianeon wrote: post #154

cyberpunk wrote: post #65

As a zen Buddhist, I've always kinda felt our Tibetan 'dharma brothers' style of buddhism (admittedly, I don't know a lot about) feels much more like a proper religion than the kind of thing I've been into.. Which put me off quite a lot of it, I still hope to someday visit the place. It’s pretty sad that such an essentially peaceful and introspective group of people are abused thus, even if they believe in some prett…

This is factually incorrect: claiming Chan Buddhists do not believe in reincarnation. On the facts, wrong. The Buddha taught reincarnation and all major schools essentially follow his example. This includes Chan Buddhism. It may not be emphasized or really suggested as a topic for reflection - but if you are asking point blank "Do Chan Buddhists accept the idea of reincarnation after death, as the Buddha taught - or…

You are absolutely wrong. The whole reincarnation thing probably came from Brahmanism, but Buddha tought impermanence which is absolutely the opposite of any form of reincarnation. There is no soul to be reincarnated.

Yes, there are some Koans and such which use stories involving reincarnation, however these are not literal teachings, they are just stories used to make a different point (usually, something about non duality).

Do some buddhists believe in reincarnation? yep. Some are also christians, or Scientologists, or atheists too. We don't know what comes after we die so it's really up to whomever to think whatever they wish.

We do not teach it, however. And the Buddha did not either. Zen teachers would all agree that reincarnation is a wrong view. Back to Dogen, even. It's literally the opposite of what we think about the nature of self.