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Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by stjohnswarts »

mrkramer wrote: post #177
layer8 wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I doubt that will happen because everyone would stop using them and they would go bankrupt. The Russian state might not care a lot about that possible consequence and still coerce them to include malware in the next update.

EU, US and their allies can kick Kaspersky off the market. It would be a game over for Kaspersky meaning zero installs(licenses) and zero revenue. It is not worth to do it not even in the short term. Trust would be forever lost.

Trust doesn't matter when you and your team know the alternative is 20 years in a Siberian gulag.

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Post by throwaway290 »

orangepurple wrote: post #150
kozak wrote: post #2

Telegram is next?

Telegram is run by a citizen of St Kitts and Nevis. He escaped Russia after they beat down his door.

Who also promised to cooperate with russian government in exchange for lifting the ban on the app.

And even if he didn't, if you run the most popular messenger app in Russia you can't simply hide behind "citizen of some other country". KGB is known for poisoning/shooting people abroad for much less, and especially if you have family or close relatives back in your country of birth you really have little leverage to speak of.

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Post by timbit42 »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #59
Jamie9912 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you take a look at ESET?

That was actually going to be my first choice. From what I read it seems better polished than others. But then I read some recent lab tests in which ESET missed blocking a ransomware attack. And that's the threat model that worries me the most.

Any anti-virus can miss a malware at any time because they rely on updates which take at least a day if not more to be prepared and tested before being distributed in the updates. Don't worry about ESET missing one ransomware attack in a lab test. Do backups daily.

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Post by perfecthjrjth »

In the long term, this will prove to be a good decision, as other countries figure out that US companies (Microsoft, Google, FB, Twitter, Master, Visa etc) are in bed with spy agencies of the US. Other countries are given more reasons to NOT depend so much on these companies.

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Post by stjohnswarts »

paganel wrote: post #83
older wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The 3-letter US agencies do not have direct access to Telegram's servers What makes you think so?

Snowden, for a thing.

I don't recall snowden having any material on whatsapp backdoors though?

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Post by sharken »

Maursault wrote: post #54

Ok, let's cut the crap. Is Kaspersky a dirtbag or not? I suspect not, but it is an unfortunate accident he was born in and runs his company from Russia, the government of which is a dirtbag, so, correct me if I am wrong, Kaspersky must be a dirtbag by association, but especially for discovering Stuxnet. Believable, but I think the real reasons Kaspersky is persona non grata is due to having discovered Stuxnet, and Ka…

Here is my humble opinion.

Kaspersky is by definition a Russian company that provides antivirus software to many influential western companies and institutions.

The risk of Kaspersky bowing to the pressure from Putin is just too great to ignore. For Kaspersky this can seem unfair, but that is one of the many consequences of Putins actions.

Don't forget who started the invasion and who is still hurting innocent Ukrainians.

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Post by SeanLuke »

BTCOG wrote: post #117
_8j50 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even american security companies have ties to the intelligence community. Kaspersky is no different. In most countries private sector pays more so state hackers work at places like Crowdstrike or Kaspersky after some time. Their relationship with the IC helps develop and share intelligence both ways.

It's not just security companies. US ISPs are heavily tied to agencies and so are the large corps. The media is state ran just like Russia.

> The media is state ran just like Russia.

The whataboutism is out in full force here.

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Post by jacobr1 »

older wrote: post #163
BTCOG wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just security companies. US ISPs are heavily tied to agencies and so are the large corps. The media is state ran just like Russia.

You can't be more wrong when you say "just like Russia". It is not even close. The killings of journalists, repressions... The last independent newspaper has to close its activity because it is not possible anymore to report truth while complying to the Russian laws: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/28/russias-novaya-gaze... All this with Russian government/president approval rating of 70%.

Without independent media, how can we trust the approval rating is accurate?
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