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Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by cout »

paganel wrote: post #32
pantulis wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have also been amused by the number of technical people that prefer Telegram vs Whatsapp in terms of security.

> Telegram vs Whatsapp in terms of security. The 3-letter US agencies do not have direct access to Telegram's servers, they do have when it comes to Whatsapp (or to any other US-based company). The same goes if you're a Russian doing anti-government stuff in, well, Russia, it's better to put your fate in Whatsapp's (and Meta's) hands, presumably the US agencies won't come after you for being against the Russian gover…

I agree with your logic, though a paranoid person might point out that they don't need access to telegram's servers; access to the app store or to automatic OS updates would be enough.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by mrtnmcc »

Maursault wrote: post #54

Ok, let's cut the crap. Is Kaspersky a dirtbag or not? I suspect not, but it is an unfortunate accident he was born in and runs his company from Russia, the government of which is a dirtbag, so, correct me if I am wrong, Kaspersky must be a dirtbag by association, but especially for discovering Stuxnet. Believable, but I think the real reasons Kaspersky is persona non grata is due to having discovered Stuxnet, and Ka…

Plenty of legit potential concerns.. Russian govt could "nationalize" Kaspersky at any moment and push rogue updates.

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Post by randomsilence »

Why do we accept the risk of intrusion from antivirus software at all?

All antivirus software developers should open-source their traversal software and thus guarantee that no harm can be done. The scanning doesn't need write access and doesn't need network access.

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Post by dangus »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #37

I spent Sunday researching alternatives, then uninstalling KIS and trying to install BitDefender. From this I conclude that the current state of AV/Security apps is dismal. Researching alternatives is difficult, it falls directly into the cesspool that is web product recommendation in 2022. Trying to weed out the garbage articles, I find a handful of apps that are consistently rated that the top. I discarded the reco…

I think your last sentence is what Putin counts on, that the West won’t risk “hurting the business environment” to respond to his military campaign.

I think one of the flaws of Western culture is how much business efficiency is put on a pedestal above all other priorities.

Because of that type of mindset, the West can’t even manufacture simple cloth or paper masks during a healthcare crisis (as an example).

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Post by older »

Maursault wrote: post #54

Ok, let's cut the crap. Is Kaspersky a dirtbag or not? I suspect not, but it is an unfortunate accident he was born in and runs his company from Russia, the government of which is a dirtbag, so, correct me if I am wrong, Kaspersky must be a dirtbag by association, but especially for discovering Stuxnet. Believable, but I think the real reasons Kaspersky is persona non grata is due to having discovered Stuxnet, and Ka…

Kaspersky graduated from The Technical Faculty of the KGB Higher School in 1987. That was a definition of a dirtbag in Soviet time.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by p1peridine »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #37

I spent Sunday researching alternatives, then uninstalling KIS and trying to install BitDefender. From this I conclude that the current state of AV/Security apps is dismal. Researching alternatives is difficult, it falls directly into the cesspool that is web product recommendation in 2022. Trying to weed out the garbage articles, I find a handful of apps that are consistently rated that the top. I discarded the reco…

It's possible to use Kaspersky Free but block the apps internet connection*

Network Settings > uncheck Traffic processing

Network Settings > Do not scan encrypted connections

Once in a while, allow internet connection, do a quick database update then immediately block the internet connection again.

* Firewall (router or software).

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Post by mmastrac »

Maursault wrote: post #54

Ok, let's cut the crap. Is Kaspersky a dirtbag or not? I suspect not, but it is an unfortunate accident he was born in and runs his company from Russia, the government of which is a dirtbag, so, correct me if I am wrong, Kaspersky must be a dirtbag by association, but especially for discovering Stuxnet. Believable, but I think the real reasons Kaspersky is persona non grata is due to having discovered Stuxnet, and Ka…

His only statement so far on the far (keeping in mind this is rather than saying nothing) called it a "situation" in Ukraine. That's not much to read into, but he also could have chosen to say absolutely nothing.

"We welcome the start of negotiations to resolve the current situation in Ukraine and hope that they will lead to a cessation of hostilities and a compromise. We believe that peaceful dialogue is the only possible instrument for resolving conflicts. War isn’t good for anyone."

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Post by mmastrac »

p1peridine wrote: post #67
CWuestefeld wrote: post #37

I spent Sunday researching alternatives, then uninstalling KIS and trying to install BitDefender. From this I conclude that the current state of AV/Security apps is dismal. Researching alternatives is difficult, it falls directly into the cesspool that is web product recommendation in 2022. Trying to weed out the garbage articles, I find a handful of apps that are consistently rated that the top. I discarded the reco…

It's possible to use Kaspersky Free but block the apps internet connection* Network Settings > uncheck Traffic processing Network Settings > Do not scan encrypted connections Once in a while, allow internet connection, do a quick database update then immediately block the internet connection again. * Firewall (router or software).

With something that has hooks that deep in your OS, blocking internet access via the application itself is not going to be effective in any way if it's hostile software (or turns into hostile software via government decree).
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