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Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Definitely not banned in Russia: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/19/last-apps-standing-...

They tried in 2018, but couldn't pull it off. It's unclear what Telegram agreed to in 2020 to get officially unblocked though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_Telegram_in_Russia

>It's unclear what Telegram agreed to in 2020 to get officially unblocked though.

Most likely implementing FSB backdoors.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Wonder if Google, Facebook, Twitter, Microsoft, etc will be added to this list. While US may consider them national security assets, it is usually the opposite that is true. Like building backdoors into encryption, these services build backdoors into peoples lives. Also note, it usually often only takes one rogue employee with superuser access to compromise a system.

They're US companies, which means the US has a variety of options to influence its operations. While there are a variety of risks that such companies present, Kaspersky is in the qualitatively different situation that a different nation-state has greater influence on its operations.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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I think a lot of people have been saying this for years. However most people until recently thought it was unfounded hyperbola. We should at least be skeptical given the connections the founder has.

Just like, until recently, Europe (and especially Germany) thought it was paranoia to treat Russian oil and gas dependence as a risk.

Exactly. These are very costly lessons, learnt on Ukrainian blood....

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Telegram is next?

I found it always fishy that telegram applauds itself for being a secure messenger but decided against encryption by default. With the flick of a switch every doubt would go away but alas.

I'm only tangentially aware of secure messaging apps. How do you feel about Signal? What is your preferred client?

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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> Kaspersky also maintains that it “doesn’t have any ties with any government, including Russia’s

This take is either naive in the extreme, or disingenuous.

For a security company trying to maintain a trusted reputation, neither of those two options is good.

While possibly technically accurate, it is a dodge or a flub that overlooks the fact that their autonomy can be usurped by the governments where they are based and where they operate.

To be fair, this is true of almost any company I can think of, although I wonder if a DAO could get around it.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of people have been saying this for years. However most people until recently thought it was unfounded hyperbola. We should at least be skeptical given the connections the founder has.

Just like, until recently, Europe (and especially Germany) thought it was paranoia to treat Russian oil and gas dependence as a risk.

German policy was out in la-la land. Politicians sold the public on green policies before the infrastructure was ready and heavily relied on imported non green energy to get there. They didn’t have to shut down their nuke plants, but ‘make happy’ led them down that path of dependence —just as most of the industrialized world is dependent on another questionable government for consumer goods and microelectronics. Offshoring is awesome for the ruling class until it isn’t.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Wonder if Google, Facebook, Twitter, Microsoft, etc will be added to this list. While US may consider them national security assets, it is usually the opposite that is true. Like building backdoors into encryption, these services build backdoors into peoples lives. Also note, it usually often only takes one rogue employee with superuser access to compromise a system.

Why would the US declare companies that benefit them as security threats?

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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IIRC Telegram is banned in Russia, and its CEO is not in good terms with the Russian government.

Definitely not banned in Russia: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/19/last-apps-standing-...

Not sure why you're down-voted for stating out the facts as they are.
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