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Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by ComradePhil »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #7
smoldesu wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, we ban all MAANG products for federal use. Who supplies us software/hardware next? How do we trust them more than what we had before?

By requiring that government services use regularly audited open source products.

But then how can governments sneak in their targeted exploits?

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by thematrixturtle »

ComradePhil wrote: post #10
mohamez wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IIRC Telegram is banned in Russia, and its CEO is not in good terms with the Russian government.

Definitely not banned in Russia: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/19/last-apps-standing-...

They tried in 2018, but couldn't pull it off. It's unclear what Telegram agreed to in 2020 to get officially unblocked though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_Telegram_in_Russia

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by mc32 »

asteroidp wrote: post #9

Good! Although 20 years too late

I think a lot of people have been saying this for years. However most people until recently thought it was unfounded hyperbola.

We should at least be skeptical given the connections the founder has.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by morganvachon »

ComradePhil wrote: post #6
kozak wrote: post #2

Telegram is next?

Very likely, being founded and run by Russians... and a good way to stop people from communicating freely about the world affairs.

Russian citizens != Russian government. The Telegram development team is not on good terms with the Russian government last I read. With that said, it still operates within the borders so it's subject to government control (just as any US-based messaging service is subject to US government control). It's always a cat-and-mouse game between those who want free, unfettered, unmonitored communications and the governments that feel threatened by that kind of freedom.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by buitreVirtual »

mc32 wrote: post #15
asteroidp wrote: post #9

Good! Although 20 years too late

I think a lot of people have been saying this for years. However most people until recently thought it was unfounded hyperbola. We should at least be skeptical given the connections the founder has.

Just like, until recently, Europe (and especially Germany) thought it was paranoia to treat Russian oil and gas dependence as a risk.

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Post by pantulis »

throwmeariver1 wrote: post #12
kozak wrote: post #2

Telegram is next?

I found it always fishy that telegram applauds itself for being a secure messenger but decided against encryption by default. With the flick of a switch every doubt would go away but alas.

I have also been amused by the number of technical people that prefer Telegram vs Whatsapp in terms of security.

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Post by ramesh31 »

pantulis wrote: post #18
throwmeariver1 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found it always fishy that telegram applauds itself for being a secure messenger but decided against encryption by default. With the flick of a switch every doubt would go away but alas.

I have also been amused by the number of technical people that prefer Telegram vs Whatsapp in terms of security.

>I have also been amused by the number of technical people that prefer Telegram vs Whatsapp in terms of security.

Tribalism is a helluva drug.

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Post by spacemanmatt »

pantulis wrote: post #18
throwmeariver1 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found it always fishy that telegram applauds itself for being a secure messenger but decided against encryption by default. With the flick of a switch every doubt would go away but alas.

I have also been amused by the number of technical people that prefer Telegram vs Whatsapp in terms of security.

I have also been amused by the number of technical people that prefer anything vs Signal in terms of security.
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