Debian decides to allow secret votes

Post by mw888 » Tue, Mar 29, 2022, 11:33 AM UTC

gjulianm wrote: post #64

charcircuit wrote: post #56

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>That's a bug, not a feature It's a trade off. I want to be able to prove that my vote was counted. How can I trust that my voice was actually heard by the system? >as nobody else can verify what you voted for. You can mitigate this problem by giving people a way to fake any vote outcome. The voter knows how to verify their actual vote, but someone else would not be sure if what they verified was real or fake. Also I…

> How can I trust that my voice was actually heard by the system? Most vote countings are public. I can go to my polling place, cast my vote, check that nobody tampers with the box, watch how they count every vote correctly, ensure that the written tallies are correct, and then verify that the central system tallies match with those I counted.

Post by ahtihn » Tue, Mar 29, 2022, 11:39 AM UTC

pydry wrote: post #47

mlindner wrote: post #33

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You're phrasing of "sunlight to disinfect the voting process" is rather disgusting personally... You try to twist something that's quite horrible, namely voter corruption through public opinion as if it is somehow "disinfecting" anything. The mob mentality of the internet is best kept away from any voting base.

These people are making decisions that affect all of us on our behalf. Decisions that affect the security and integrity of the software we rely upon every single day. It is not "disgusting" that we be allowed to question their decisions. Every introduction of democracy or futherance of democracy has been castigated by autocrats as rule by mob. The sickening irony here is that it looks like this was done to try and pr…

Post by mlindner » Tue, Mar 29, 2022, 11:44 AM UTC

pydry wrote: post #47

mlindner wrote: post #33

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You're phrasing of "sunlight to disinfect the voting process" is rather disgusting personally... You try to twist something that's quite horrible, namely voter corruption through public opinion as if it is somehow "disinfecting" anything. The mob mentality of the internet is best kept away from any voting base.

These people are making decisions that affect all of us on our behalf. Decisions that affect the security and integrity of the software we rely upon every single day. It is not "disgusting" that we be allowed to question their decisions. Every introduction of democracy or futherance of democracy has been castigated by autocrats as rule by mob. The sickening irony here is that it looks like this was done to try and pr…

Post by usrusr » Tue, Mar 29, 2022, 11:46 AM UTC

dotancohen wrote: post #37

pferde wrote: post #35

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Friendship over, immediately. (Group of friends is a completely different situation from what's being discussed here.)

That's not so easy when the wives are friends or sisters.

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 29, 2022, 11:48 AM UTC

throwaway48375 wrote: post #57

touisteur wrote: post #43

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I agree. I don't understand the argument of reducing cost of elections and scaling. The current paper system in place in most works (at least in European countries where I've witnessed the process) and doesn't need to scale more. If actors in a democracy can't afford such a system, and the occasional (once, twice a year) walk to the voting place, 15 minutes wait and fellow-citizen interaction, can't we accept they do…

American here and I have had to wait >2 hours to vote multiple times. In the worst instance someone tried to illegally close the polling place even though people were still lined up outside. This is in clear violation of state law. So long as you are lined up to vote before the polling place closes they have to take your vote. To the sheriff's department credit (they are generally terrible) the deputy who responded r…