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I agree with the general concept that, at the individual level, news consumption is bad for your mental health and pretty much useless. At the societal level though... if everybody took this approach there would be no accountability for politicians or corporations. How do we find a healthy middle ground?
>How do we find a healthy middle ground? In Europe we had teletext. In Spanish, but you get the concept: https://www.rtve.es/television/teletexto/noticias/129/ Small paragraphs. Almost no bias. News condensed to be read on a small tv. No bullshit, no yellow journalism. Raw and short. Teletext as shown on old TVs: https://live.staticflickr.com/1453/25222724604_15d7a974a2_b.... Now they should create pages like this. L…
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I believe you'd have a far more satisfying and productive time coming out of your shell if you redirected Joe's conversation to asking about him, or his kids, or his hobbies- keeping it local like the article concludes. Unless it's your job, neither of you really understand whatever is happening with Ukraine and your conversation will be mostly limited to repeating what you've been told to each other, which doesn't e…
The Ukraine example might be true for a non-european country, but as a European in these times I want to be informed. I want to help refugees and the victims of war (either by donating or giving shelter for some days). If I wouldn't know things from the news, I wouldn't know about these things. Knowing in what direction world events might change is good to be at least mentally prepared when things turn worse. It does…
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As a fellow European, IMO it’s very important to follow especially what non-Ukraine politicians are doing. That will help a lot in elections in coming decades. Let’s keep them accountable for once.
What do you think the advantages of continuous following are, vs. reading up on their history the day before the next election? It seems to me that by waiting, you'll have more information on how their policies worked out. JIT judging, if you will.
But it will be interesting to compare my own experience to what people will try to make out of this later on.
Regarding COVID at least in my country it was pure madness. A lot of double standards, different media channels skipping different bits to bend the narrative, people who did little trying to claim credit, discrediting people based on information we have today even if they acted okay-ish given what we knew at the time....
It's very interesting to watch history that I witnessed being written. It will be even more to see how people reflect on this 20 or 50 years later. A lot of food for thoughts if history we know reflects what actually happened in other cases.
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#145The idea that only local news affects me is simply wrong, because the world is connected and things are influential. I do not live in Texas, but the Texas legislature restricting access to healthcare and allowing citizens to sue providers affects because certain political parties will treat that as a template for laws across the country, including in my area. The Florida legislature trying to ban books and discussion…
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I am greatly in support of Ukraine and the destruction of the invaders, but > the suffering and pains of that country are the greatest seen in many decades Could this really be true?
I think it's context specific. Suffering caused by armed conflict, in Europe? Probably. (I'm from Sarajevo and I think we are a close second if not the first.) Mass suffering by any cause anywhere? Between the Tsunamis and diseases and earthquakes and awful civil wars and genocides, sadly, I think the competition is quite stiff :(
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#147One thing to keep in mind is that news is a business. News outlets are honed and designed a certain way to maximize profit. I had a lot (a lot) of criticism for the way news work right now, what counts as "journalism", etc., which was one factor in why I just gave up on it, and now I have one less reason to be angry with something I can do nothing about.
Another factor which lead me to give up on news reporting was politics, or more specifically, politicians. I've attended an interesting class in Uni where we were introduced to Machiavelli. The similarities between Machiavelli's "strategy" and today's real world politicians simply could not be ignored. I can't overstate how awakening it was, as if I could suddenly see the game being played, how painfully predictable it all was, and how incredibly stupid they must think the public is. It was insulting.
That, combined with my perception that most things in politics work for personal gain through leverage, made me quit on politics as well. I realized not a single actor in politics can be trusted, all and any communication from a politician is carefully crafted to gain leverage regardless of the what their actual intent is. I've been called jaded for saying this, but I can't put the genie back in the bottle: once you see it, it cannot be un-seen. If you still think politicians are candid actors, maybe you do have a reason to give them the time of day.
It's not for everyone, but for me, quitting news and most of politics was a huge improvement in my life. It's your choice not be enticed, used for leverage, your emotions exploited for power or profit. Peace and quiet is something you can claim for yourself. The world is going to be 100% the same whether you give the News your time and mental dedication or not.
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#148I'll come out of my shell a few times a week and won't understand what's going on. News sites just tell me the last 18 hours' worth of updates... So... I either disengage entirely and can't carry on a conversation or I stay engaged and worry about events I cannot affect. I'd like a "I haven't checked the news in [7] days and some guy at work mentioned [Ukraine talking to the UN], what's that all about?" website. I gu…
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#149Lot of people in the comments are recommending the Economist for a monthly/weekly digest. Any complimentary journals or magazines that can provide a slightly different perspective?
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Are you asking about the historical facts? I don't know. Not my speciality, and I don't want to say something which might be not true. Are you asking about the younger me's understanding of this question? I can answer that. Understand the following in this light: My understanding that their persecution was not a bolt from the blue. Politicians were agitating against them. There were speeches, there were marching demo…
> Are you asking about the historical facts? Yes, because that's what's relevant to the question of whether watching the news is or is not a good way to get advance warnings of the kind of danger you might need to take drastic action to avoid. My understanding of the historical fact is that Jews who left Germany to escape the Nazis did not do so based on anything they read in the news; they did so based on word of mo…
That sounds same-ish to me. “Word of mouth” is just news from people you personally know. It certainly enhances reading news in certain cases. For example if there were a modern day politician who would write a modern day Mein Kampf i would know about it because podcasts I’m listening to would mention it, and the twitterati would denounce it. I would count all of that as “news”.
> biggest obstacle to Jews fleeing from Germany was not lack of information but the simple fact that it's very, very difficult to uproot your entire life and flee to a foreign country
You are absolutely right. Knowing is only half the battle. I have other tactics which help me with the other half too.
> Based on what you read in the news?
Well maybe you got me. I believe the first signs I read where some satelite image analysis re-tweeted by either Dr Jeffrey Lewis or Decker Eveleth. I count these sources as “news” because occasionly they tell me stuff about the world I didn’t know before. Obviously you might disagree on that, and that is fine.
> I don't think this was a bolt from the blue any more than the Nazi persecution of Jews was.
Sounds like we are in agreement then. There is a sad element of “boiling the frog” here. As you say things are certainly bad between Ru and Uk since years. I could imagine that months ago someone less informed could hear rummours and murmurings and dismiss it as “oh, the russians are rattling their rabbles again”. I couldn’t even fault them! That was my first thought too, that this is just a replay of the Zapad excercise and nothing to worry about. But then i got more specifics from more sources and more modalities and remembered how exactly Zapad went and realised that there is something more to this now.
Heck! Five years ago I got offered a job in Tallin. I declined it for many reasons, and one of them amongst them was the closeness of Russia and their expressed and stated intents. Did anything happened to Estonia? Nothing so far, and hopefully nothing will. Being well informed is not just all about dramatic escapes, but also about avoiding being in harms way when possible.
I feel we talked enough about Ukraine, i have a different example too. I’m an EU national living in the UK. The current words of the settlement scheme basically grants me rights to stay here. Many of my friends are in the same shoes and they are really relaxed about it. The thing is I read about the Windrush scandal and know that what seems certain now might change a decade or two later. This motivates me to aim for more secure forms of attachment to the country I’m living in. They might loose (accidentally or intentionally) my paperwork, but they are less likely to loose my passport if i get naturalized. ( Less likely, but of course we know they can still do that, just think of Shamima Begum )
The details don’t matter of course. What matters is that I have listened to the news, heard things and changed my behaviour. This is the reason I listen/read/hear news from a variety of sources.