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Justice Stevens reads the fine print

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Re: Justice Stevens reads the fine print

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Justice Brandeis says a thing: https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2016/05/27/justice-louis-bra...

Care to explain the relevance aside from this also being about a SCOTUS justice?

Your description is exceeding vague, and I don’t have a ton of time to listen to a NPR story though from the description it seems like it’s just a general discussion about his life.

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Related to the opening of this article – it is interesting to see how one can get completely soured on certain products or experiences because, by virtue of their profession, they see the dirty underbelly of how things in that industry actually work. Someone who has read cruise contracts in detail will never want to go on one. Cooks with experience in commercial kitchens never want to eat at a restaurant again. Someo…

One of those hypotheses is easily testable: bridges can collapse and you will hear about it. And yet.. it rarely happens? There was one in Italy and one in the US recently but, to a decent approximation, it’s a non-issue. Maybe we should have more trust in people and their work. Maybe our bridges are fine, our food is kosher, but what’s rotting on the inside is society, eaten alive by cynicism and distrust.

Bridges are usually massively over-engineered for safety.

Re: Justice Stevens reads the fine print

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> ... is fully and fairly notified about the existence ...

I'm not a lawyer, but recently I did watch the movie Legally Blond (recently for free at YouTube) where the character Elle Woods on her first day of Harvard Law School was sent out of a class for being "unprepared", that is, not having read 41 pages on "jurisdiction" or some such.

Well, Ms. Woods might have responded to the professor that she did nothing wrong and, thus, should not be sent out of class and all that because she was not "fully and fairly notified" of the existence of the assignment.

I thought of that while watching the movie (likely the movie audience was not supposed to think of such things!), but it is nice now to see none other than Justice Stevens make clear the importance of "fully and fairly". Might have been cute in the movie for the character Ms. Woods to raise such an objection that she was not notified!

Re: Justice Stevens reads the fine print

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Related to the opening of this article – it is interesting to see how one can get completely soured on certain products or experiences because, by virtue of their profession, they see the dirty underbelly of how things in that industry actually work. Someone who has read cruise contracts in detail will never want to go on one. Cooks with experience in commercial kitchens never want to eat at a restaurant again. Someo…

One of those hypotheses is easily testable: bridges can collapse and you will hear about it. And yet.. it rarely happens? There was one in Italy and one in the US recently but, to a decent approximation, it’s a non-issue. Maybe we should have more trust in people and their work. Maybe our bridges are fine, our food is kosher, but what’s rotting on the inside is society, eaten alive by cynicism and distrust.

That sounds like the road to complacency. The reality is that there are many backup systems that work much of the time. Have complacency in all of them and forget society.

The bridge has engineers and architects who know material stats and add tolerances. The restaurant has patrons with immune systems that survived worse times in human history, usually, unless the patron is undergoing serious medical treatment or something.

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Related to the opening of this article – it is interesting to see how one can get completely soured on certain products or experiences because, by virtue of their profession, they see the dirty underbelly of how things in that industry actually work. Someone who has read cruise contracts in detail will never want to go on one. Cooks with experience in commercial kitchens never want to eat at a restaurant again. Someo…

Most people who work in restaurant kitchens eat far more from restaurant kitchens, not less. I did for quite a few years and I’m still very happy to eat at any diner, drive through, or Michelin star restaurant.

Re: Justice Stevens reads the fine print

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Related to the opening of this article – it is interesting to see how one can get completely soured on certain products or experiences because, by virtue of their profession, they see the dirty underbelly of how things in that industry actually work. Someone who has read cruise contracts in detail will never want to go on one. Cooks with experience in commercial kitchens never want to eat at a restaurant again. Someo…

One of those hypotheses is easily testable: bridges can collapse and you will hear about it. And yet.. it rarely happens? There was one in Italy and one in the US recently but, to a decent approximation, it’s a non-issue. Maybe we should have more trust in people and their work. Maybe our bridges are fine, our food is kosher, but what’s rotting on the inside is society, eaten alive by cynicism and distrust.

I’d also like to see some evidence that people familiar with bridge construction actually avoid bridges or hesitate before using them. I suspect they might say something like that if the conversation goes in that direction, but I doubt they actually modify their behavior.

Re: Justice Stevens reads the fine print

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Related to the opening of this article – it is interesting to see how one can get completely soured on certain products or experiences because, by virtue of their profession, they see the dirty underbelly of how things in that industry actually work. Someone who has read cruise contracts in detail will never want to go on one. Cooks with experience in commercial kitchens never want to eat at a restaurant again. Someo…

As a developer, I was shocked when at a friend's house saw that Alexa not only operated lights, but door locks and blinds. Or when another friend takes hands off the steering wheel to test lane keep assist.

I don't think I can trust any software at that level.

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> ... is fully and fairly notified about the existence ... I'm not a lawyer, but recently I did watch the movie Legally Blond (recently for free at YouTube) where the character Elle Woods on her first day of Harvard Law School was sent out of a class for being "unprepared", that is, not having read 41 pages on "jurisdiction" or some such. Well, Ms. Woods might have responded to the professor that she did nothing wron…

> recently I did watch the movie Legally Blond (recently for free at YouTube)

OT, but what do you mean? Is youtube showing full movies now, or was this a pirate upload?

Re: Justice Stevens reads the fine print

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> ... is fully and fairly notified about the existence ... I'm not a lawyer, but recently I did watch the movie Legally Blond (recently for free at YouTube) where the character Elle Woods on her first day of Harvard Law School was sent out of a class for being "unprepared", that is, not having read 41 pages on "jurisdiction" or some such. Well, Ms. Woods might have responded to the professor that she did nothing wron…

> I'm not a lawyer, but recently I did watch the movie Legally Blond

I’m going to use this whenever I give a legal opinion on the internet.

Re: Justice Stevens reads the fine print

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Justice Brandeis says a thing: https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2016/05/27/justice-louis-bra...

Off topic question but can anyone explain this baby/toddler talk "did a thing" / "said a thing" meme that is spreading lately? I hear it at work from some of my dev team and just curious if I'm missing some sarcastic/jokey reference every time it's being said.
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