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Re: No news is good news

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Economist is many things, but "sharp left" it is only to a certain subset of people. The rest of the world would mostly call it "left-leaning", or maybe "radical centrist".

Perhaps more like globalist/corporatist, which reflects their recent ownership? In 2015, Pearson - a publishing company - sold its controlling stake to a bunch of corporate owners, like the Agnellis (43%) and the Rotschilds (21%), among others. The change in their editorial direction was immediately visible (I had been a subscriber/reader for 35+ years until 2016) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Group

The Rothschilds have had a substantial stake in the Economist for 70 years, including prior to the time when Pearson was a shareholder. Pearson did not control the board, had only 6 of the 13 board seats, and never had majority control of the company. It's unclear what is meant by "corporate owners;" Pearson is a publicly traded corporation.

I'm also a long-time subscriber and do not understand the "shift" you are referring to. The Economist has been pro-free-trade, generally against heavy regulation, and a magazine that consistently takes small-l liberal positions for a very long time. That stance means that sometimes they are right - deregulation has been good in many areas - but sometimes they get it wrong, when, for example, free trade may have adverse effects.

Sometimes they take positions that are bad - they argued for the second Iraq war - but they are pretty up front about their biases, and generally don't represent their biases as purely objective facts, as many traditional newspapers do. Their writing is clear and concise and is not meant to be consumed uncritically. The magazine is still unparalleled for what it offers.

Re: No news is good news

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I'm sorry but this is just total nonsense. The author argues very that being informed is an unimportant article of faith. I can name a number of recent examples where being uninformed of the news would have had significant impacts on my life. For example, 1. New Zealand is still under various Covid restrictions and they are in constant flux. These impact real-world decisions I need to make like should I plan to atten…

Why are you conflating being informed or following one particular event with being obsessed with the news? If Covid restrictions are so malleable in your city then you should find avenues that keep you updated, but once it's over you should also quit with the updates. Knowing what happens in Ukraine every single minute is useless. If you see all those hints around you about a conflict you are unaware of, why can't yo…

> Why are you conflating being informed or following one particular event with being obsessed with the news?

I'm not. This article isn't about "being obsessed with the news", it is arguing against following the news at all - in fact he addresses this directly. Did you read the article?

> So what are you supposed to do instead, you might ask? Well, reducing news consumption is a good start but like Dobelli I would say mere reduction is probably not enough. Personal experience of attempting moderation has made me more of a hardliner. Personally, I vote for going cold turkey and simply walking away from the whole idea of news and the illusion of staying informed.

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I agree with some of the premises of this article, that much of the news is actually of negative value, but I have some problems with this part: > If an event is actually important to your real life, you will find out about it. Such news will find you. > Well, from my experience you ignore all of the things you cannot control and that have little bearing on your life (again, if there is some news that will actually e…

Weather alerts come through my phone (a notification for a watch, a buzzing for a warning, and some siren like thing for an active tornado).

Re: No news is good news

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe you'd have a far more satisfying and productive time coming out of your shell if you redirected Joe's conversation to asking about him, or his kids, or his hobbies- keeping it local like the article concludes. Unless it's your job, neither of you really understand whatever is happening with Ukraine and your conversation will be mostly limited to repeating what you've been told to each other, which doesn't e…

The Ukraine example might be true for a non-european country, but as a European in these times I want to be informed. I want to help refugees and the victims of war (either by donating or giving shelter for some days). If I wouldn't know things from the news, I wouldn't know about these things. Knowing in what direction world events might change is good to be at least mentally prepared when things turn worse. It does…

As a fellow European, IMO it’s very important to follow especially what non-Ukraine politicians are doing. That will help a lot in elections in coming decades. Let’s keep them accountable for once.

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I'll come out of my shell a few times a week and won't understand what's going on. News sites just tell me the last 18 hours' worth of updates... So... I either disengage entirely and can't carry on a conversation or I stay engaged and worry about events I cannot affect. I'd like a "I haven't checked the news in [7] days and some guy at work mentioned [Ukraine talking to the UN], what's that all about?" website. I gu…

I believe you'd have a far more satisfying and productive time coming out of your shell if you redirected Joe's conversation to asking about him, or his kids, or his hobbies- keeping it local like the article concludes. Unless it's your job, neither of you really understand whatever is happening with Ukraine and your conversation will be mostly limited to repeating what you've been told to each other, which doesn't e…

It’s pretty easy to understand what is going on in Ukraine in general. It’s also pretty easy to notice certain politicians/institutions/companies reactions. Then it will be pretty easy to make choices. If people ain’t passive, we can ensure this ain’t happening again in 5-8 years.

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The idea that only local news affects me is simply wrong, because the world is connected and things are influential.

I do not live in Texas, but the Texas legislature restricting access to healthcare and allowing citizens to sue providers affects because certain political parties will treat that as a template for laws across the country, including in my area.

The Florida legislature trying to ban books and discussion of topics once again sets precedent that will become attempted law in my area.

People need to be aware of these efforts to know what to look for in their community and to prepare to counter such efforts. Information spreads and strategies are organized. Waiting until something is in my local area before trying to respond is guaranteed to lose.

Even on a large scale, knowing about international conflict made me aware that I should stockpile Baltic Birch plywood before its price skyrocketed. Reading the news saved me hundreds of dollars.

Fundamentally, ignoring the news is a luxury afforded to those who benefit from the current power structure. If you are well off and white, yes, you can probably ignore the news. If a subset of the government is constantly trying to find ways to harass you, deny you the right to vote or get healthcare, you have to be aware of things to prepare for and effectively counter them.

Re: No news is good news

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Ridiculous. There is one reason I read news, and it is stronger now than ever.

I started reading news when I was about 14 and this was my reasoning: "There were Jews in nazi germany who could have escaped the horrors but didn't. Some, not all, but some had the resources to emigrate, to run, but they either didn't see the danger coming, or didn't believe it will get as bad as it got, or had too deep roots to move themselves. I will want to be like the Jews who escaped, who kept their eyes open and realised what is coming and went and saved their life and their loved ones life." And that's why I started reading news. In case there are people thinking about killing me and mine I can bolt.

Now excuse my 14 year old self's naive understanding of history. It is never as easy as just that. But certainly there are dangers in life. I want to avoid those dangers. I want my loved ones to avoid those dangers. And here I don't mean the dangers of idk toxins in this and that normal foodstuff, or the dangers of strange man hiding in the dark. Those are catchy images, but statistically speaking they are not worth worrying about.

So what kind of dangers do I mean then? Normally I just say "i will know when I see it", but sadly we have a very clear and present example. I heard about the possibility of the Russian invasion first thing last November. I did recognise that it has the potential of being very bad and if I would have had family and loved ones in Ukraine I would have tried to make them move to a safer place. And increasingly as the signal grew I would have exerted more effort to make that happen. I hope that if I would have had family in Ukraine they would not be there by the start of the invasion. (And I know this also has a component of not just being well informed, but also having resources. I recognise my privilege.)

So that's why I'm reading news. To gather the temperature of the pot I'm swimming in with my loved ones. And I also understand that this makes me prone to overreact, and that is fine. I would rather be the pigeon who nervously flitters about than the pigeon who got eaten by the cat.

Re: No news is good news

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Ridiculous. There is one reason I read news, and it is stronger now than ever. I started reading news when I was about 14 and this was my reasoning: "There were Jews in nazi germany who could have escaped the horrors but didn't. Some, not all, but some had the resources to emigrate, to run, but they either didn't see the danger coming, or didn't believe it will get as bad as it got, or had too deep roots to move them…

Did the Jews who escaped Nazi Germany know to do that because of what they were reading in the news?

I get that we all want to avoid dangers and that knowing about them in advance helps. I just question whether reading the news is a good way to do that.

Re: No news is good news

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Humm... reading the news saved me from entering into an expensive and hard-to-reverse lease in a teeny-tiny Paris apartment just weeks before the lockdowns. I'd have gone nuts there.

More topical still, reading the (right kind of) news got people to evacuate their folks from Ukraine just in time before it became really dangerous.

Sure, those may be once-in-a-lifetime events, but still.

I'll happily accept that I'm reading too much (way too much) news though.

Re: No news is good news

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Ridiculous. There is one reason I read news, and it is stronger now than ever. I started reading news when I was about 14 and this was my reasoning: "There were Jews in nazi germany who could have escaped the horrors but didn't. Some, not all, but some had the resources to emigrate, to run, but they either didn't see the danger coming, or didn't believe it will get as bad as it got, or had too deep roots to move them…

Did the Jews who escaped Nazi Germany know to do that because of what they were reading in the news? I get that we all want to avoid dangers and that knowing about them in advance helps. I just question whether reading the news is a good way to do that.

Are you asking about the historical facts? I don't know. Not my speciality, and I don't want to say something which might be not true.

Are you asking about the younger me's understanding of this question? I can answer that. Understand the following in this light:

My understanding that their persecution was not a bolt from the blue. Politicians were agitating against them. There were speeches, there were marching demonstrations, then there were aggression against individuals. Shops burnt down etc. It wasn't like yesterday was everything A-okay, and today you are sitting in a cattle car heading to a gas chamber.

> I just question whether reading the news is a good way to do that.

I understand that. And I agree with you it is better to be skeptical about these things. But on the other hand with Ukraine I had a good 5 monthish heads-up. Maybe 2 month if i'm calculating from the "my spidersense is tingling enough that I would start walking out with nothing but the clothes I have on my back if I must" moment. So in the present day it's hard to convince me that it's not a good way to do that. One of course also needs a head solidly attached to their shoulders, and a good mind in it, but that's always needed for everything.

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