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Post by philwelch »

Andys wrote: post #191
philwelch wrote: post #163

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Slack is much better as a corporate chat app, but I’m not sure that’s necessarily good in the broader picture because I’m not sure you want to maximize chat engagement in a corporate setting. There are weird cultural effects to that, and paradoxically having a shittier app for that might get you the benefits of being able to chat with your coworkers and ask them questions without the weird social effects.

and if the team consists of remote workers?

I don't think that necessarily changes anything. The weird cultural effects of Slack are probably even worse with remote workers.

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Post by syshum »

skissane wrote: post #92

So many discontinued Microsoft products not listed: Xenix, Microsoft OS/2, Multiplan, Microsoft COBOL, Microsoft Fortran/PowerStation, Microsoft Pascal/QuickPascal, the classic Microsoft Basic line (BASIC/BASICA/GW-BASIC/QuickBASIC/QBASIC/PDS/VBDOS), MS-DOS, MSX-DOS, Microsoft Adventure, Microsoft Decathlon, Z-80 SoftCard, Microsoft Delta (the version control system), Windows NT OS/2 subsystem, Presentation Manager f…

I wish MS would actually kill InfoPath... not they keep in this is quasi life support mode that is broken 50% of the time but still listed as "supported" with a 2013 client that breaks all the flippen time..

The official death date is Jul 14, 2026, however that has been extended 2 times now...

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Post by jokethrowaway »

mickotron wrote: post #182
nerdponx wrote: post #63

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I am still salty about how badly they ruined Skype, though.

Skype was amazing until it was acquired. Would Zoom even exist today if Microsoft never bought Skype?

Yes, their proprietary scalable video codec is what makes the difference.

It's miles ahead any competition and pretty much the only tool which will give you decent calling experience on spotty connections.

Before zoom I was mostly doing audio calls on a computer, with zoom video is easily manageable (actually, not sure if that's a plus for society, it certainly increased the meetings / productiveTime ratio).

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Post by [deleted] »

kungito wrote: post #94
SomeBoolshit wrote: post #72

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There was also MSN messenger, which was more capable than Skype other than the connection to the actual telephone network (having messages be delivered later without requiring both people to be online at the same time - amazing!) and when Teams replaced Skype, even more features were dropped. What part of that is positive other than "well, you can still do some of the things but we prefer to give you an inferior prod…

Lets be honest, no Microsoft messaging platform had a chance to be a 2022 whatsapp/messenger competitor. They were smart to realise that and focused on their Slack alternative for businesses which they can package with the rest of Office package. And with the new EU regulation on the way it makes even less sense

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Post by [deleted] »

zapnuk wrote: post #111
mnd999 wrote: post #78

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Teams is unbelievably shit though. It’s like they don’t even care.

Yes! Teams is by far the worst "popular" software i've ever used. It's so bad that eventhough most businesses depend on teams, they, as well as everyone else, would be better off if teams suddenly disappears from one day to another. edit: Just a few things that annoy me basically on a daily basis: - The status isn't always up to date. Sometimes it takes minutes to you or your contacts to show the correct status. - It…

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Post by freeone3000 »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #169
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #151

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There isn’t much money in selling to creators? And the niche the Kinect had with active gaming has been reliably filled by Meta/Facebook/oculus’s quest, it’s too bad Microsoft didn’t explore that more deeply.

Likely not, not in its current form. I wouldn't be surprised if in 2010 that Kinect was being sold at a significant loss (as is the usual trend in the games industry). They'd need to tweak the device quite a bit to be B2B, but given the success of game engines, asset packs, and other tools I don't think it's impossible. Creators will absolutely pay a premium for such tech when the alternative goes for thousands of do…

You're describing the Azure Kinect, which does exist and you can buy.

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Post by _dqna »

zapnuk wrote: post #111
mnd999 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teams is unbelievably shit though. It’s like they don’t even care.

Yes! Teams is by far the worst "popular" software i've ever used. It's so bad that eventhough most businesses depend on teams, they, as well as everyone else, would be better off if teams suddenly disappears from one day to another. edit: Just a few things that annoy me basically on a daily basis: - The status isn't always up to date. Sometimes it takes minutes to you or your contacts to show the correct status. - It…

- Notifications will continue to trigger for chat threads of meetings I’m no longer a part of, for teams I’m no longer in.

- I can’t create bullet points and numbered lists because breaklines will frequently send the message instead of continuing the list.

- You’ve already mentioned this, but the ability to change volume for individual speakers should be considerer core functionality. I’d rather use Discord for office work than Teams for this reason alone.

What’s weird to me is that Teams, for me at least, was a good product about 3 or 4 years ago. Definitely more stable back then; I had fewer complaints.

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